Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Batyanya


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Only one SPA wants to keep, against the otherwise unanimous conclusion that this character is not notable. Fences &amp;  Windows  00:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Batyanya

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Aside from online aliases for random people, I see no hits for this guy on a Google search. I can't even figure out which novels, if any, he features in. This is either a subtle hoax, or a non-notable fictional figure. &mdash;ShadowRanger (talk 15:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See no hits for this guy on a Google? Check this (besides, this is Google). -- g@s-ua.com 20:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And a few more on a Yahoo. -- g@s-ua.com 22:45, 23 December 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs) 20:41, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Clarifying: At least, non-notable in the English speaking world. &mdash;ShadowRanger (talk 15:32, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There were no notes or remarks that these categories of fictional characters are only related to English speaking world. -- g@s-ua.com 16:24, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete either hoax or very non-notable. Points to consider (1) Article does not name what books/series the characters appears in. (2) "Sergei Zverev" the claimed author, is indeed a famous person, but he's a fashion designer and pop singer, not a writer. (3) Googling "Batyanya" or "Батяня" and using image search does not produce any book covers. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  16:32, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 2,3) please check "Sergei Zverev" as a writer. At least 6 pages of his books. By the way, it is Google. Yes, of course, this article is just an interpretation of the russian one. And maybe not the best interpretation. So "delete or not to delete" is up to you now. -- g@s-ua.com 20:41, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) "Article does not name what books/series the characters appears in." Now it does. Please check. -- g@s-ua.com 21:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Doc Quintana (talk) 19:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * per What? -- g@s-ua.com 21:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)


 * I'd just added a few References (e.g. north-american resource "russlovo.com") -- g@s-ua.com 12:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)
 * Comment I'm sorry, but simply being available for sale isn't sufficient to establish notability. &mdash;ShadowRanger (talk 17:02, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand. But above mentioned references is nothing more than just an evidence that this character exists, and it's possible to read about his adventures even in USA (or Finland, for instance). It's difficult for me, to judge the notability of the novels or its protagonist in English speaking world -- g@s-ua.com 19:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.162.218.218 (talk)
 * At least, please give me a few criteria of notable fictional figure. -- g@s-ua.com 09:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)

Delete, possibly speedily per A2 - Fictional character without individual notability. Create an article about the book(s), which will be judged on its own merit. --SquidSK (1MC•log) 08:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I added this article because there were no such adjectives like 'national' or 'american', etc., before Fictional special forces personnel category. -- g@s-ua.com 11:57, 26 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)
 * Delete - No evidence character has notability separate from series. Redirect to series or author article if they exist (it looks like they don't). If article or redirect is kept, not that character's (nick)name is Batyánya, not Batyanya. --EEMIV (talk) 23:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right. There is no article about author nor about series. This article is just an interpretation of its russian original. -- g@s-ua.com 10:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)
 * This article is not having the same content as an article on another Wikimedia project (russian wiki). It's not a direct translation, because there is some words and wordforms which couldn't be translated directly, and some notions which does not exist outside russian culture. It is rather an explanation. So A2 doesn't rule in such very case. Besides, what merits do You mean? -- g@s-ua.com 14:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)


 * Dear Colleagues, I suggest a short break in our dispute, approximately till the January 3rd. Thanks for your well-reasoned comments. And Happy New Year! -- g@s-ua.com 14:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdechnyG (talk • contribs)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.