Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bay East Association Of Realtors


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Jamie ☆ S93  22:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Bay East Association Of Realtors

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promotional article, high COI factor Wuhwuzdat (talk) 19:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete promotional first-person plural spam with zero independent references. And what exactly is member-to-member charity? Sunshine club? Drawn Some (talk) 19:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- kelapstick (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

This is a page for a trade organization representing over 5000 realtor professionals in the bay area. We are regularly quoted in local media sources for our housing statistics and outreach programs. This is not designed to promote our business and services rather to inform the public what it is we do. This is no different than the pages provide by the following groups.


 * Realtors Association of Hamilton-Burlington
 * National Association of Realtors
 * Association of Saskatchewan Realtors
 * Nova Scotia Association of Realtors

As I stated above this is a page for a local trade organization for the San Francisco Bay Area. We are regularly cited in media articles, press releases, and by students reporting on local economic issues. We are even improperly cited on wikiepedia in the following article Pleasanton,_California. According to the East Bay Association of Realtors, the median price of a detached single family home is $832,000 as of November '07. With many people turning for Wikipedia it is important that we are able to give some background of where this information is originating.

I apologize if I have failed to properly structure the article but it is certainly worth inclusion within the Wikipedia site. I am willing to do whatever it takes to get the article in line with the requirments on the site. This is not a ploy to generate traffic or to sell our services simply put we are a trade organization, people are going to join us if they are a member of that trade. The purpose of this entry is to first give perspective as to what our organization is within the community, what areas we cover in regards to the MLS and particularly what entry points of data members of the public can find from us.While I do work for the organization in question it is also my intention to become more active within the Wikipedia community.


 * There is actually one independent reference currently to the National Association of REALTORS I was in the process of adding additional ones before my account was disabled and the page was marked for deletion I am trying to respect the spirit of the wikipedia site and address the concerns prior to editing the page further.
 * If you had read the section of the foundation before it was deleted/trimmed you would have seen it is a member supported charity that is open to others within the community and it has supported many people in staying within their homes, going to school and even sending donations for general relief aid.

Mark flavin (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Mark_Flavin — Mark_Flavin (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Read WP:N, WP:RS and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * G11 Spammy much, Mark Flavin? Your whole reply was one big advertisement. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Fine, Normal delete since someone's too afraid to speedy it even though it's a big blatant ad. Hell, let it sit around for all I care. There's clearly no rush to get anything deleted anymore. Ten Pound Hammer , his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete no reliable sources? No encyclopedia article.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete people speaking on behalf of the company are quoted a lot in google news archives. However I am confident there are not sufficent reliable sources talking about the organisation itself to establish notability. --Pontificalibus (talk) 22:01, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete An advantage of doing it here over speedy is to be able to remove-creations under G4. Created in good faith, but a failure nonetheless to understand our principles. Please, Mark, understand that this is not arbitrary action but the standing way we work to keep this an encyclopedia. DGG (talk) 01:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - serious lack of WP:N as far as I can see. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  02:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as spam. --KurtRaschke (talk) 00:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Jules: We're gonna be like three little Fonzies here. And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda what's Fonzie like? Yolanda: Cool? Jules: What? Yolanda: He's cool. Jules: Correctamundo. And that's what we're gonna be. We're gonna be cool. Ten Pound Hammer, all he did was start a Wikipedia page about his organisation. There's no need to bite the newbie, he doesn't know our sourcing standards. There is no rush to delete anything except obvious copyright violation and probable libel and other BLP problems. Dedicating yourself to wiping out all non-notable pages this very second is an unachievable task beyond even Hercules. The association is referred to in 114 hits on Google News (and 25 mentions as "Southern Alameda County Association of Realtors"), so some discussion of its notability is fair. As it happens, I can find a lot of press releases and comments in news stories from current and past presidents, but nothing focussing on them, so the sourcing is probably too weak to support an article. Fences and windows (talk) 01:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: serious conflict of interest reflected through the use of the word "our". Alexius08 (talk) 09:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.