Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baymam-Bet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 19:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Baymam-Bet

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This page was redirected to Kosh-Eter, and that redirect subsequently nominated at RfD. The discussion did not reach agreement on whether this populated place verifiably exists, based on differing opinions about the reliability and appropriate weight to be given to sources, but did reach consensus that if it exists it should have an article. user:Markussep's post in that discussion is worth quoting here: "The first version of this article was only based on this website. There is no mention of a place called Baymam-Bet in the 2009 population census (if it existed, it would have been on page 220, Uzgen district, Salamaliksky a.o.), and there is no populated place with this or a similar name near the given location on this detailed map." Tavix commented to the effect that this apparently formerly appeared on Google Maps, which they believe to be reliable, and so it may be a former populated place or formerly recognised name. BDD implies that the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency regard this as an existing place, and that they are a reliable source.

I have closed the RfD discussion as "restore article and send to AfD" as this is the venue most competent to decide the issues about whether the article should exist or not. As such this is a procedural nomination and I am neutral. Thryduulf (talk) 12:44, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Notes:
 * Bayman-Bet exists as a misspelling redirect and should be deleted if this article is.
 * Ak-Art, Ak-Mechet'-Aral, Alike, Kyrgyzstan, Bor-Doba (redirect:Bordaba), Itsay, Shumkar, Tyz-Ashu (redirect: Tysh-Ashu) were noted as also being former articles redirected by user:Markussep in the same manner for the same given reason as this article. They were neither tagged nor discussed further, so I have taken no action regarding them but participants in this discussion may wish to do so.
 * People not mentioned above who also participated in the RfD
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 12:47, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 12:47, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete unless reliable sources are found that this place exists. All we have so far is a GNS entry, whose coordinates point to a barren-looking place on the slope of a mountain. The fact that it previously featured on google maps is much more likely to indicate an error that has been fixed, rather than a place that existed until recently (otherwise, it would at least appear on the 1980s topographic map linked above). I've tried a google search for what I reckon are the possible Cyrillic spelling variants (Баймамбет, Баймам бет, Байман бет, Байманбет), but the only relevant thing to come up was a place called Baymanbet in a different part of the world . – Uanfala (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kyrgyzstan-related deletion discussions. –  Uanfala (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete along with misspelling unless it can be proven the place exists. Simply redirecting to "nearest village" does not help our cause much, if the original place does not exist and therefore there is no "nearest village"... Other places should be likewise deleted but can await the outcome here. — Iadmc  ♫ talk  21:03, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.