Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bcash


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. All three "keep"s are by accounts of 6, 22 and 53 edits respectively, which raises some ... doubts.  Sandstein  18:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Bcash

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So far as I can tell, the subject is new software in the cryptocurrency realm. It's hard to find any coverage outside of niche websites and certainly not enough to pass WP:GNG. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 01:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * keep: It's not hard to search info about it in thousands of sources in google. For example here is the video of its public presentation in Coingeek 2018 conference --Malkavian (talk) 01:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Reddit, blogs, and other questionable websites. Please let me know when The New York Times writes about this. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * If we have to remove all articles about bitcoin nodes or even about software if New York Times doesn't talk about it in a month after its creation, we have a lot to remove. Moreover "bcash" word was used for years as a disrespectful name trying to redirect people interested in Bitcoin Cash to the subreddit r/bcash where they are trolled and misinformed on purpose. People who do this even think that "Bitcoin" is a name of their property, while it's not a trademark or registered in any way. They only do this to Bitcoin Cash and not to Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Private or other variants, probably because of fear to its competition as Bitcoin XT did in the past (being attacked too). --Malkavian (talk) 02:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, we have a lot of articles written within a month of the products creation that aren't mentioned by reliable sources. These should be deleted ASAP. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 02:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This software is equivalent to Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Unlimited one, it's an alternative to these. --Malkavian (talk) 07:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Note: The above comment represents the second !vote by the same editor. Polyamorph (talk) 08:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Keep: Previously, it was redirecting to Bitcoin Cash, and this is a mistake. Some people try to refer to Bitcoin Cash as "bcash" in a disrespectful way, so these trolls will continue creating the page again and again with the same redirect and confusing people. Maybe a disambiguation page would be a good solution, because it has different meanings for different people. Also it could refers to some international companies. Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a weapon for misinformation. Is better a short article than a mistaken redirect. Rutrus (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * misinformation certainly. We don't need misinformation A to offset misinformation B. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 02:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Then telling people that Bcash is a coin since its beginning, before even Roger Ver supported it, shouldn't be done. Bitcoin Core have great FUD and censorship campaign since 2015, but here neutrality should be used. Going to add info about that Bcash use.

Delete- obviously this has nothing to do with creating an encyclopedia. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 02:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but this is not an argument. Actually, its written in an informative and encyclopedic way. It's created today, so, let the community improve it. Not to talk about the discordances is the way to not create an encyclopedia. Rutrus (talk) 03:20, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, perpetuating some feud on wikipedia is unencyclopedic and a waste of everybody's time. Polyamorph (talk) 08:33, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Note - note an editor originally placed the AfD notice on this page:. I've placed the AfD tag on both pages. Polyamorph (talk) 07:04, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And AfD note wasn't removed. Afterwards it was marked as copyright infringment and marked for express delete. That matter was replied, but it was deleted hours later. --Malkavian (talk) 07:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are trying to say. Polyamorph (talk) 08:34, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I misunderstood you. But I placed AfD notice for BCash article and not for Bcash, which I edited. --Malkavian (talk) 10:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Available sources do not meet WP standards for establishing notability. Would advise the entry’s creator to read WP:GNG policy as well as WP:NOTFORUM.Innisfree987 (talk) 07:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sanctions warnings handed out. Do not perpetuate the Bitcoin/Bitcoin Cash dispute here otherwise you will be sanctioned. MER-C 08:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not enough coverage in reliable sources to satisfy WP:GNG. Also delete the redirect. Request page protection to prevent further recreation by new users. Polyamorph (talk) 08:38, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * If the page were to be deleted, the idea to protect it is definitely something I can get behind. TZander (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - lacks the significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability.-- Whpq (talk) 11:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I added several sources, proper ones. Not reddit or such. This may go a long way towards starting to make this a proper article. Practically speaking the 'keep' for this article should not be judged on its own. I agree its a little sparse at this point and while I feel with the new sources we are better at matching the requirements, I do understand the arguments people made for deletion.  But we should look at the almost violent and ongoing disruption elsewhere on wikipedia as well. Keeping this page and inviting people to provide more real sources to this page will help immensely with the edit war going on on the Bitcoin Cash page which has been locked twice now and there is no reason to think people are going to be convinved. A focus of a lot of (reverted) edits is to add and remove the title "bcash" to the Bitcoin Cash page. See the talk page there. My argument; judge the merit of this page not just on its content but also as a way to stop the edit war there. TZander (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts; however if memory serves, those are the same sources the deleted version of this entry had. (If an admin could look, that'd be appreciated.) They remain insufficient. If there's vandalism/edit-warring elsewhere, that's not a problem we solve by tossing out our content policies. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I wrote previous version before it was deleted in hours for copyright infringment!!?? and I haven't time to add references, I only added some external links --Malkavian (talk) 19:55, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've replied on Malkavian's talk page. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:27, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * delete and salt promotional dreck that fails NCORP unambiguously. There are general sanctions on crypto pages exactly because of stuff like this. Jytdog (talk) 18:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. If this is deleted (I have no opinion on whether it should) then the title should be recreated as a redirect to Bitcoin Cash (which is commonly called "BCash" or "Bcash"), this can be protected if the article is likely to be recreated. Thryduulf (talk) 10:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That is exactly the origin of the war. A majority of people want to impose "Bcash" as an alias of "Bitcoin Cash". It is a pejorative name used in thousand of twits or reddit messages to disturb. Usually goes with these other words: "btrash", "bscam", "bcrash", "bcrap". You can try to search "bcash btrash" and the same for the other words, in twitter. Nobody that likes Bitcoin Cash call it bcash, only people that fears of it, as the bigger competency of Bitcoin, the one they likes. --Malkavian (talk) 11:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Per WP:RNEUTRAL redirects from widely used non-neutral terms are a benefit to the encyclopaedia. Thryduulf (talk) 23:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Promotional and fails WP:GNG. This source (in chinese) shows the characters 广告 which translates to paid advertisement. Maybe the english sources are also paid advertisements. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 21:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.