Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beadling Soccer Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. The consensus of the discussion was to delete, and the sourced coverage of the organization cited in the article appeared to be largely incidental. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  13:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Beadling Soccer Club

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Non-notable youth football club which has won a few tournaments. Article claims it is the oldest club in the USA but there is no independent evidence to support this. Prod removed by article's creator without explanation. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  08:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  08:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 11:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The 'oldest team in the US' claim is repeated once on WVSPN and again on Explore PA History (note how they both say it is ONE of the oldest, not THE oldest). However, I don't feel this is enough to make this team notable enough for Wikipedia. Third-party sources seem to be rather thin on the ground, consisting mainly of directory listings. That's not to say youth teams aren't always non-notable (Wallsend Boys Club springs immediately to mind), but in this instance, I have to go with the nominator. Bettia   (rawr CRUSH!)  11:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I've gone about rewriting this article in attempts to see if it can be salvaged.  Being one of the oldest soccer clubs in America and having a former NFL player playing on the team I think is grounds enough for notability.  I've added a few sources and fixed the mistakes, and in general "wikified" it a little bit.  Hopefully its easier to see its potential merits now, although it needs expansion. I also found a news article about the Beadling Soccer Club here, but I'm not sure I can use that in the article. --Banime (talk) 19:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition many Penn State soccer members come from there as I've found out (and added and sourced in the article). --Banime (talk) 19:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - The fact that it's one of the oldest U.S. soccer teams is interesting, but I don't think it establishes notability by itself. The fact that notable people have played on the team doesn't do it for me either; are all youth teams that athletes play on notable? I think not. Significant coverage in reliable sources is the general guideline for notability, and the given sources don't provide that; they all have only brief mentions of the club.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 19:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - even having produced multiple future professional players would not be enough to render a boys' club notable and this club hasn't even achieved that (only non-professional college players and one solitary pro in a different sport altogether, as far as I can see) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

* Weak Delete' Err...I really, really wanted to keep this one. However, no significant coverage in secondary reliable sources leads me to a weak delete. Lazulilasher (talk) 03:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC) Change to weak keep (about 10 seconds later). After rereading Nfitz comments above, I must say, being a 110 year old soccer club in the USA is inherently notable. Article is short, concise and provides a reasonable explanation for such a subject. No reason to delete; subject is verifiable. Lazulilasher (talk) 03:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Ban  Ray  22:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - a 110-year old soccer club in the USA? Article is very well referenced, and I can't think of another club that comes close in age. Notable. Nfitz (talk) 05:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, no independent sources showing notability. Stifle (talk) 07:59, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N - especially lack of reliable sources establishing notability for this club. --Angelo (talk) 10:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.