Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bear Transit


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Closing for a second time - Since relisting there's been no delete !votes and to be totally honest it was an obvious keep a week ago.... (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 23:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Bear Transit

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Non-notable local school bus service. Article reads mostly like a guidebook, no reliable sources currently in article, and sources offered to justify deprodding are the local school newspaper, thereby failing WP:ORG. Regards, James(talk/contribs) 10:31, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Based on the sources located by Altamel below, I would change my nomination to merge into University of California, Berkeley. The Bear Transit page is still a permastub that fails NOTGUIDE, but a short mention in the parent article based on those sources seems appropriate. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 20:39, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Regards, James(talk/contribs) 18:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Regards, James(talk/contribs) 18:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)


 * delete as per WP:NOTGUIDE. of no significance to anyone except people that catch the service. LibStar (talk) 15:31, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:WHOCARES/WP:LOCALFAME. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:58, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:52, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:26, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:15, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:45, 8 January 2016 (UTC) — AsianHippie (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep: Unlike most university transit systems, this one is available for use by the general public, so I suggest it be considered on par with municipal transit systems, which are generally kept. But furthermore, I suggest that this article does meet WP:GNG. Bear Transit was the subject of an in-depth study presented before the Transportation Research Board of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, and there's also coverage of the transit system in Metro Magazine. Altamel (talk) 04:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge per Altamel. Usually I would agree that not all private shuttle systems should be included on Wikipedia, but Bear Transit is run by publicly owned UC Berkeley and is indeed open to the general public (disclosure: I'm a student at Cal). From what I've seen, there are quite a few people riding it who are neither students nor faculty members (mostly tourists visiting, but they are members of the public). Furthermore, I think it is listed as a public transit system in the Bay Area, and the research sources mentioned above are notable and can be added into the article. There are quite a lot of outdated information, but overall the page is worth keeping and I can update it shortly when a conclusion is reached here. --AsianHippie (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * it's interesting you come here as your very first edit LibStar (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Meh. I did mention on my userpage that I'm starting to edit Wikipedia again after years of inactivity. Whether you want to take that or not is up to you. If you wish to see more of my edits, I'll probably fix some vandalism on Wikipedia. To reduce your concern that I'm a single-purpose account, I'm changing my view to simply Keep rather than Strong Keep. Does that address your concern? --AsianHippie (talk) 23:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Confirmed at Bear Transit daytime route page and Bear Transit night safety shuttles that Bear Transit is open to the public. However, it is not listed on transit.511.org and doesn't appear to be on Google Transit either. Thisisnotatest (talk) 08:42, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is listed at 511.org. In the Transit tab, under Schedules and Route Maps, there is a Shuttles tab with a list that includes UC Berkeley Campus Shuttle. Peter Chastain   [¡habla!]  20:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that information. Ridership or accessibility by the public are not deletion criteria. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 20:17, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. As has been said, different from almost all university transit systems because of the extent of the system and its community role. (Until I read this article and discussion, I in fact had not known it was open to the general public, but since it is, it's a public transit system on par with all others.)  DGG ( talk ) 20:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:01, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Close comment - I originally closed as Keep but I pretty much agreed with DGG and that was more or less my reasoning for closing which technically isn't one so to make life easier for everyone I've reopened/relisted... – Davey 2010 Talk 21:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep but put a short section in the university article, and keep this one short. I'm ok with merge as well. Legacypac (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: It's part of Berkeley's public infrastructure. Also, it should receive info from Humphrey Go-Bart, which is likely to be deleted. I would like to see this article expanded with historical information, if suitable sources can be found. Peter Chastain   [¡habla!]  20:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


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