Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bearden School District (Oklahoma)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 18:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Bearden School District (Oklahoma)

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School District with two schools. This article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NORG. WP:BEFORE revealed only WP:ROUTINE coverage and brief mentions, nothing that meets WP:SIGCOV which addresses the subject directly and in depth and is an WP:IS  // Timothy ::  talk  07:32, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:49, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:49, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Per comment below, subject also does not meet WP:GEOLAND.


 * Note - school districts do not fall under NORG. As a quasigovernmental entity, with fixed boundaries and taxation power, they are covered under WP:GEOLAND, which only requires verification of existence for notability., I purposely didn't phrase this as a !vote so if you want to withdraw this, I'll close it. John from Idegon (talk) 09:09, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I added this to the above, thanks for the information, I hadn't considered that guideline. But WP:GEOLAND says "are typically presumed to be notable" typically is not always, and a presumption is not a guarantee of notability. In this case, there is WP:ROUTINE coverage, but nothing that meets notability. If I missed something that shows notability, please post it and I'll be glad to withdraw (and thank you for the consideration on letting me withdraw, instead of !voting keep).  // Timothy ::  talk  11:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep If you read the top of WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, you will see that school districts are almost always inherently notable. That is what John from Idegon was referring to. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:33, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply : This doesn't mean it is always notable. Additionally, SCHOOLOUTCOMES states, "This page is not a policy or guideline, and previous outcomes do not bind future ones". The guidelines are the factor here that define notability. Most school districts have more than two schools, so I believe this is an exception if there are not RS showing notability. If you have any sources that show that the district is notable, please list them. I'm happy to withdraw if there are sources showing notability.  // Timothy ::  talk  21:04, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Reply : Sorry I did not get back to you sooner. I see why citing WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES was not a good move on my part. I should have cited WP:GEOLAND instead. I understand that many school districts have more than two schools, but I am unsure why you think this is an exception to WP:GEOLAND. If school districts are  "typically presumed to be notable" , it sounds like there are few exceptions to the guideline. A lot of school districts in rural areas have only two schools. If we were to delete this article, we would have to delete the articles for most other small districts that do not have significant coverage too. In my opinion, such a move would be going against WP:GEOLAND because the number of affected articles would indicate that there are a lot more exceptions to that part of the guideline than it seems to imply. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:18, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:44, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - clearly meets GEOLAND. John from Idegon (talk) 15:30, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - School district's are notable per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and WP:NGEO. Wm335td (talk) 20:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Generally we keep public school districts in part because they're a legal government entity and because it's a target article to redirect all the little schools. Bearian (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


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