Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BeatStars


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Mojo Hand (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

BeatStars

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I've declined a WP:G11 request on this—I think it's more likely someone trying to write a genuine article, rather than unambiguous spam—but this doesn't appear appropriate for Wikipedia as it stands, and the coverage doesn't appear to exist to bring it up to a minimum standard. &#8209; Iridescent 15:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Business.  &#8209; Iridescent 15:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * comment I'm seeing a bunch of coverage on Music Business Worldwide, how do they rate as a source? Artw (talk) 16:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * There's also a bunch of coverage of them relating to the Old Town Road sample, which could be incorporated? The company doesn't seem to get a mention by name on the article. Artw (talk) 16:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't believe MBW has ever come up at RSN for a conclusive ruling. I can only find two previous mentions of them at AfD (Articles for deletion/Luke Girgis (2nd nomination) and Articles for deletion/Audio Network, both of which were dismissed as just reprinted press releases, but those were both from seven years ago so they may have cleaned up their act when it comes to churnalism. (Given that the two sources you link begin and  respectively, I'm guessing no.) &#8209; Iridescent 16:37, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * There's also a Forbes, unclear if it is the UGC driven kind but it's a reasonable assumption that it is. Artw (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Sourcing and article improvement seems possible from what I see in the article and searches. That said some of the present sources may be questionable and it might need a trim back to reflect that unless they can be replaced. Artw (talk) 17:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * comment Yes this was just written as a genuine article, as I knew of the company and knew they didn't have a wikipedia page. I've never written an article on an organisation before so may not have got the tone right. I'm happy to amend to make it more neutral. The sources aren't bad but could be better, so it was tricky figuring out what information was best to go in the article, as there wasn't a lot of options! But maybe some of it needs to just come out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebookstamper (talk • contribs) 14:59, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * In terms of sources- once weak ones are removed I think there are enough sources from reliable online publications (Billboard, Complex, Forbes etc) to corroborate facts for an article, but interested to hear if you think that's a no go? Thebookstamper (talk) 15:51, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: Forbes articles by Contributors are not acceptable. Must be from a staff writer, but the 2 Billboard articles are good. Complex is not really about the company. But Fast Company and HotNewHipHop articles are good.Zeddedm (talk) 03:31, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the direction- I've removed the Complex and Forbes sources. Thebookstamper (talk) 08:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep a very bad nomination IMO. Billboard, HotNewHipHop and Fast Company are enough to keep this. Billboard is behind paywall but I have full access and reviewed it. Over 50% of the article is about them and it is a very long article. Zeddedm (talk) 03:27, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per Zeddedm.4meter4 (talk) 21:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


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