Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beat the Blondes


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The result was move to Draft:Beat the Blondes. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:35, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Beat the Blondes

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Completely unsourced article (and has been since 2010) for an unaired TV pilot. As per WP:TVSHOW, unaired TV pilots are almost never notable enough to justify a standalone article, and this article clearly fails to meet this benchmark, and thus merits deletion. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:06, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:06, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nomination. Mccapra (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep given there are international versions, the format is not unsold. It may not have been sold in America, but the format can still be considered notable given multiple versions of the program around the world. The article should just be rewritten to focus on the show format, rather than the unproduced American version. -- Whats new?(talk) 21:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a different article. Another article on the Ukrainian show indicates that the Dutch version may be "first". However, as far as I can tell, even Dutch Wikipedia does not have an article on the Dutch version, which doesn't inspire me with confidence on the subject's notability... Regardless, the Dutch version is not the American version, and we should not keep an article on an unsold pilot for the American version. If this is truly notable, an entirely new article on the franchise should be written from scratch, but probably in Draftspace first to see if the franchise itself has received enough independent coverage... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no reason why this article can't be retooled into a franchise article, given it already has the format detail and international version summary, and is already at the base title -- Whats new?(talk) 05:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:NUKEANDPAVE applies here – an article about one topic shouldn't be "converted" to an article on a different topic. This goes beyond simply "revising" the WP:SCOPE of the existing article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's the same topic - just going from region-specific to franchise -- Whats new?(talk) 05:58, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Rewrite or drafity or weak delete'. If some versions have sold, they may be notable, or the show format may be notable. As written, however, this is indeed unreferenced article about an unsold TV pilot, and as such fails WP:GNG and WP:V. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify or userfy if anyone wants to take over rewriting the article so that it will be focused on the format rather than on the unsold U.S. version, as well as providing sources. The format would presumably be notable if it was produced and broadcast in multiple countries. Otherwise, delete without prejudice to having a better article created later. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. J4lambert (talk) 01:57, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


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