Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beat the Bully


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The result was Speedily deleted as a G5. Pioneersbrog (our sockmaster throughout this AFD) was himself a sock of Nimbley6&mdash;Kww(talk) 01:05, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Beat the Bully

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Showy article about an amateur short film (17 min.). Seems to be a school project, primary sources only. Fails WP:MOVIE. A speedy was declined. Ben Ben (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Ben Ben (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

*Keep Primary sources? Nonsense. This film is on the IMDB website, a producer from one of the UK's biggest TV channel's (Channel 4) worked on this project, and there is a standard of reliable sources. IMDB being one, not to mention other websites commenting about the premier of the film in June 2011 and a mention on various Twitter accounts. 90.218.149.131 (talk) 17:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC) Sockpuppet of creator&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:23, 3 January 2012 (UTC) *Keep Totally agree with the above comments. Internet Movie Database is a very reliable website, and they don't create pages for any silly film. MaybeU1242 (talk) 17:19, 2 January 2012 (UTC) Sockpuppet of article creator&mdash;Kww(talk) 05:31, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * While Twitter and IMBD can sometimes lead to actually suitable sources, they are not considered reliable. For those read WP:RS.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Actualy, all "any silly film" need so to qualify for IMDB is screen at some festival. As above, IMDB is a site that can often lead to more suitable sources, but it is not considered reliable. And to meet inclusion criteria for films, we need films to be covered in reliable sources. For those read WP:RS.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 *  Keep : I have added more sources to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaybeU1242 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Only one keep per customer.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I think there's enough sources here, all seem pretty secondary enough. IMDB is a worthy enough website, and give it time, the movie has still be given a release in Scotland sometime this month, I'm sure once released, it will be on a few more website. As for the time, again, we don't know if it will last for 17 mins, it maybe more. Again, it's not even been released yet so we don't know this for sure. TheGloryyDayss (talk) 01:38, 3 January 2012 (UTC) Yet another sock of article creator&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not yet released is the key. With respects, the sources curently in the article are not reliable. We do not use IMDB, Twitter, or blogs to source notability. The article needs sourcing from newspapers... and not from a school paper or the East Ayrshire Council city page. And as AFD is not a vote, but rather a discussion of how an article may or may not meet inclusion criteria, simply saying keep does not mean it will be. Arguments need to be through application of policy and guideline.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: I found nothing for significant coverage. IMDB does not prove notability because anyone can add films. The staff just needs to prove that it exists. SL93 (talk) 03:31, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete The film might become notable in the future, but currently all we have is that it exists. Lacking coverage and currently failing film notability guidelines tells us that this one is premature... simply Too Soon.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:42, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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