Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bebalee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Fairuz. Per the strongest guideline-based !vote since WP:NALBUM says this is the correct way to handle albums not notable on their own. None of the delete !votes or the nomination statement offer any reason why merging should not be done here, they just mention the reasons why a stand-alone article should not exist. How to handle that is already mentioned in the aforementioned guideline.  So Why  07:26, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Bebalee

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Unreleased album. Does not meet musical notability guidelines. No references. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 06:32, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - the article says that this album will be released in seven years time, but  that does seem like too far into the future to have a separate article in Wikipedia. There was quite recently a debate at Wikipedia: Articles for deletion about whether 2018 in heavy metal music should have its own article. A criticism made by advocates of deletion was that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If this goes for 2018 in heavy metal music, it surely must go for an article which is not to be released for seven years. Vorbee (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The phrase "first album in 7 years" appears to mean the artist's first album after a 7-year pause. The article goes on to say that the full album is due for release in September 2017. No opinion about notability. • Gene93k (talk) 02:12, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:08, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you - having now re-read the article, I pick up its meaning now (sorry I did not on my first reading). I see that the album is due for release in September of this year   - is this too soon for it to have an article in Wikipedia?Vorbee (talk) 14:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Is it too soon? Have independent reliable sources written about the album other than that it will come out in September?  Unreleased things are usually not notable, although there are exceptions, such as events that are planned long in advance.  I don't see a neutral reason for this article, only promotion.  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Sources
 * Keep - I had originally WP:DEPRODDED this by redirecting to Fairuz because I like to get these things over with as quickly as possible for everyone's benefit. But now that we're at AfD, I see that there is significant coverage of this upcoming album (I have added refs to the article) and so I believe the subject meets requirements for a stand-alone article.
 * Also a parting tip for esteemed deletionists: Bebalee is a unique word that yields immediately to the mighty Google. There is no excuse for not doing the easy peasy notability research on this one WP:BEFORE nominating or weighing in. ~Kvng (talk) 17:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete --No coverage in WP:RS. Winged Blades Godric 07:47, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment-To our esteemed keepionist:--Please identify to distinguish between promotional,trivial and non-promotional, non-trivial sources. Winged Blades Godric 07:47, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * What specifically is wrong with three sources I've cited ? Coverage must be significant, reliable and multiple. I know what a WP:PROMOTIONAL article is and what a WP:SPS is but I don't know what you mean by "promotional source". The third source is very brief but it is all about the album. I can look for other sources if necessary; I just plucked the first three I found on Google. As I suggest above, you're encouraged to do some research yourself. ~Kvng (talk) 21:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - No significant covered, lack of sufficient reliable sources. Short mentions in two blogs and a mention in a news paper is not even close to passing WP:GNG.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:03, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Fairuz in lieu of deletion. I have merged the content. The redirect can be undone when the September 22, 2017, release date of the album gets closer and journalists start publishing reviews of the album. Cunard (talk) 03:28, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


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