Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BeeBole.com


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The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

BeeBole.com

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After a good-faith search for secondary sources that would indicate that this Belgian company/software product meet WP:GNG, WP:CORP, or WP:PRODUCT, I have been unable to located any significant coverage in reliable third party sources. VQuakr (talk) 01:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete WP:SPAM, likely WP:COI Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 06:45, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comments to prevent deletion

1) For the notability aspect, here are some secondary references I compiled and that could added to the External links section. None of them are press release but true interviews by independant journalists:

This link is a proof of our last year selection to Google IO by Google. Google IO is the biggest Google event of the year and only 100 innovative companies are invited from around the world. It's a huge event for a small startup especially when coming from Europe/Belgium

http://www.google.com/events/io/2010/sandbox.html

This link is our participation to a startup event in San Francisco:

http://sfnewtech.com/2010/05/10/518-sf-new-tech-the-belgians-are-back-details-inside-sfnewtech-webmission/ And a video of the given presentation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxswD7cisW0&feature=player_embedded

This link is an interview given to the biggest french speaking newspaper in Belgium. It is related to our selection by Google to participate to the Google IO. It is not a press release.

http://www.lalibre.be/economie/actualite/article/583766/le-reve-us-de-beebole.html

This link is a summary of our meeting in San Francisco with the Governor of the french speaking region in Belgium. The story is related by the minister himself on his website:

http://rudydemotte.info/b/?p=760

This link is a recent participation as speaker for the launch of a program for innovation in Belgium. The event was organized by the Minister for the new technologies in Belgium. (Yves Hiernaux)

http://www.creative-wallonia.be/forum/les-orateurs.htm?lng=fr#Hiernaux

This link is an interview given to an independent economist journalist:

http://www.entrepriseglobale.biz/2009/02/03/beebole-une-start-up-geree-a-distance-entre-bruxelles-et-new-delhi

Those 2 links are coverage by an important Software blog called Cloudave:

http://www.cloudave.com/2255/plugging-beebole/ http://www.cloudave.com/747/beebole-and-charts-the-joy-of-apis/

This link is an interview given while in Sevilla, Spain for a promotion event for Belgian startups

http://issuu.com/jely/docs/webmission_seville_betagroup

This link is our selection n final stage to the most important startup event in Belgium:

http://plugg.eu/media/blog/p/detail/these-are-the-20-finalists-for-pluggs-start-ups-rally

This articles are covering the technical aspects of our software due to the opensource approach and very innovative technology used:

http://blog.therestfulway.com/2008/10/beebole-erlangweb-tutorial-webmachine.html http://erlanginside.com/beebole-creates-a-sample-mochikit-erlang-web-application-with-video-tutorial-51 http://www.davidpirek.com/blog/show-case-ajax-aplication-beebolecom

2) As for the spam notice, we are a legitimate company that have existed for 3+ years now. I'm a wikimedia foundation donor and we respect too much wikipedia to spam it.

3) As for the Conflict of interest

When we saw the page like the Time tracking comparaison page we found normal to add our time tracking solution to this list. We are in this matter as notable as other companies in this section. If the entry in the list does not point to a company page, the entry gets removed from that list by other administrators who monitor it. The article could be adapted to be more factual for sure. But deleting wouldn't be fair.

I hope this might help.

Yves — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yves Hiernaux (talk • contribs) 15:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - Conflict of interest from one participant. I am also thinking that the person who created the article, while I can't prove it, is also associated with the company.  Strong COI suspected here.  CycloneGU (talk) 02:19, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:53, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:53, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The page creator was indeed the CTO of the company. We have nothing to hide there. Again, we created the page because of the  page that required us to do so. We are as notable as all solutions present in that list. We tried to be as factual as we could as strong supporters of Wikipedia ourselves.

If there are changes to do, we are more than happy to have an external review pointing at the changes to be made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yves Hiernaux (talk • contribs) 21:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yet another enterprise that designs and markets business software on a subscription basis.  They make BeeBole Apps an online business application for small and medium organizations.  If you caught what it does, you're faster than I am.  Petty trade awards, conference presentations, appearances on Top 100 lists and the like do not establish business notability. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 18:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Again, we created the page as a requirement to be mentionned on the Time tracking comparaison page that page is curated by someone who knows about this specific field. He initially rejected the entry of BeeBole as it didn't follow some rules, but after correcting and checking, it was ok. It is a quite unfair process to be considered next to nothing, even if we are notable in this particular field. May be move the beebole.com article to a software stub? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Business_software_stubs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yves Hiernaux (talk • contribs) 17:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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