Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beep!!/Sunshine Sunshine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. L Faraone  04:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Beep!!/Sunshine Sunshine

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Does not pass WP:NSONGS, as songs have not been released, notability in the form of a chart position, a certification, awards, covers. As notability cannot be asserted at this point, the article violates WP:CRYSTAL. Furthermore, the article does not assert why it is notable in the the first place. --Prosperosity (talk) 08:27, 1 February 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bejinhan   talks   09:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Prosperosity is incorrect that the article does not pass notability. I have provided 7 independent sources which mention the release (outside of those verifying that it exists) and discuss the notability of the two songs within Japan. It seems that there is a fatal flaw in WP:NSONGS that it explicitly forbids articles on verifiable future releases of singles (which are more like EPs in the Japanese music industry).— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 08:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All of those sources just simply discuss that the songs exist, and how they are associated with a movie and a marketing campaign. None of them discuss the notability of the song in any way applicable to WP:NSONGS. --Prosperosity (talk) 08:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Two of the sources (one Japanese, the other an English translation) do more than that. They describe how the artist feels about one of the songs (which is available in a particular format in the Japanese market) and other things that go beyond "hey, buy this CD in March". If the article passes WP:GNG, it sure as hell would pass WP:NSONGS.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 08:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a reason WP:NSONGS exists, along with all the other notability guidelines; it has come to a general consensus that certain topics need to establish notability in a different way to a general article (or else these guidelines wouldn't exist).
 * That an artist has thoughts about her songs isn't a criterion for a song being notable, and the "other things" you mention are just tour dates and what's on the added DVD, or things that aren't to do with the release at all. --Prosperosity (talk) 09:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, now there's more background on the creation of one of the songs as well as its now clearly supported notability as it has been stated she will be performing it live and that performance will be broadcast live via FM radio.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 09:22, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * While I know that userfy is not a valid AfD comment, just move it to the userspace. This will be eligible for an article once better sources are provided and reviews are available. Keegan (talk) 08:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of excellent sources provided. The article is perfectly fine where it is in the article space and need not be removed from it for any reason.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 09:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.