Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beer in Argentina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. Clearly headed for keep/ Drmies (talk) 01:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Beer in Argentina

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Deprodded with no rationale. Notable topic but the current unreferenced substub list deserves a WP:TNT. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  02:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:43, 12 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. This article has been around for two and a half years and still has zero sentences of prose. If this article were anywhere near the quality of, say, the Beer in Brazil or Beer in Chile articles, then I would be happy to support a "keep" recommendation, but as of now I can't. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:56, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Thanks to the efforts of ClemRutter among others, the article has been sufficiently improved to warrant keeping it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 22:58, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The nomination admits that the topic is notable. It then cites WP:TNT but that is neither policy nor guideline.  Our actual policies are:
 * WP:ATD – "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page."
 * WP:IMPERFECT – "Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome."
 * WP:SOFIXIT – "Fix it yourself instead of just talking about it."
 * Andrew🐉(talk) 09:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article can easily be improved, and it would take little more effort than has been spent trying to delete it. The PROD was clearly invalid, per WP:ATD. Pburka (talk) 15:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Reywas92's redirect is good, too. Pburka (talk) 18:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Beer_and_breweries_by_region until you have something worthwhile. Reywas92Talk 16:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify, seems like a pretty obvious solution no? Put this unreferenced but likely notable not-even-a-stub into draftspace until it can be improved and turned into an actual article. Then it can be moved back into mainspace. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Beer_and_breweries_by_region as per Reywas92 suggestion. The topic has potential for any editor willing to expand it and make it encyclopedic. In its current form it doesn't hold much value. Ajf773 (talk) 10:43, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Just need a little TLC. Broichmore (talk) 17:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There are three points to be made here.
 * It is so notable that editors will be frightened off. There are cross links to :es:wiki, and essentially we are refering to a German speaking community, this is not an article that you can helicopter in and fixs. In fact the Spanish is pretty simple.
 * While this may have the word cerveza, bier, bière in the title we are deep into the politics of Catherine the Great and the 104 German villages along the Volga. A simple word like Pilsen has differing connotation if you are approaching from the north south, neighbouring countries. We are talkiing of the deacde when when the railways reached Buenos Aires and when Patagonia was annexed to Argentina.
 * While prodding has its value, I think it has to be done professionally- the notability test is- whether the article title is notable, the second test is a quick google to ascertain whether the sources are there- and that includes using Google.es, and here google.de.- the third test is to see whether the article has already been written in es:wiki. An article like this passes all the tests- if your language skill are not good enough the default is to walk on by. Yes it is tidy just to do a prod- but it has wasted a great deal of other peoples time. A quick deprod would do us all a favour. If you wish to discuss this with me- can I invite you share a beer in Bariloche- I pay for the beer, if you could just buy the air tickets.ClemRutter (talk) 21:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * KEEP Improvements made recently to the article (tnx User:Broichmore) to the article now make it worth keeping instead of just redirecting it elsewhere. Obviously a notable topic.   D r e a m Focus  23:44, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. The article is still low quality but the topic is notable and this has been improved sufficiently it is a valid stub. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


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