Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beers Family


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Beers Family

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Pursuant to the criteria for speedy deletion, under A7, this article does not contain enough information to be considered important, or useful.

I'd like to seek consensus on this deletion, to ensure that the community accepts of this proposition. Ex Parte talkundefinedcontribs 03:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * the article says the group played at the Fox Hollow Festival, so it is definitely ineligible for deletion under speedy criterion A7 (no credible claim of significance). VQuakr (talk) 04:39, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment I have had a look for any independent, reliable sources about this group and have come up short. They obviously existed, and released an album, Seasons of Peace, that is on Amazon. what are your thoughts here? Do you think the group meets any of the requirements listed in the notability guideline at WP:BAND? VQuakr (talk) 07:24, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I have added a discography of three albums to the article. This group definitely deserves a place in Wikipedia, and I was surprised they were not listed already. The first album, Introducing the Beers Family, was on the Columbia Masterworks label, which was a prestigious label for classical music. The second album, Christmas with the Beers Family, was on the popular Columbia label. The group was very highly regarded in folk music circles in the 60s and 70s. Regarding the Fox Hollow Festival, it was run by Bob Beers, and held on the Beers' property, so the festival would not have existed without the family. Berwickontweed (talk) 11:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berwickontweed (talk • contribs) 10:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, the New York Times ran an obituary of Bob Beers after he died in a car accident in 1972: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B03E7DD153AE73ABC4F51DFB3668389669EDE Berwickontweed (talk) 13:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 12:07, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. A more focused search for <"Beers Family" "Fox Hollow"> (see links above) produces some newspaper coverage as well as a number of apparent book sources, mostly shown only in snippets but here is one readable example. An 2009 obituary for Evelyne Beers is here, and Smithsonian Folkways has a 1960 Folkways release by Evelyne and Bob . Cumulatively there's enough indication of notability here to warrant inclusion. It's possible that the brief content of Fox Hollow Festival could be merged into this article to provide better context.--Arxiloxos (talk) 19:10, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments, . I also found an article from The Daily Gazette, which is more about the festival in general than the family but mentions the family, too. I like the idea of merging, but that can occur post-AfD. VQuakr (talk) 00:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. This along with the sources listed above seems to meet our notability criteria. VQuakr (talk) 00:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. I think the references people have turned up here show the Beers Family were significant players in the US Folk Revival scene, and are certainly worthy of a WP reference Berwickontweed (talk) 04:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


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