Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Being francophone


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Being francophone

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the tvmcgill reference doesn't say anything about Being Francophone and the other reference is a facebook page. PTJoshua (talk) 18:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The page respects Wikipedia's guidelines for film notability and is part of a university program currently being distributed and soon to have its page on IMDB. Trailer watchable as well. Also competing in film festivals in the following months. Integrating the Canadian student documentary films library. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonyon21 (talk • contribs) — spa (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * delete per the arguments above, yes I know that's a keep !vote but every fact presented is a classic "not yet" case. If and when it competes in film festivals then, if it wins any awards, it will be notable, but it's not notable yet. HominidMachinae (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * it's not because you get an award that you deserve to be somewhere. If you don't give it a shot, sure it's never going to get anything at all. Plus it has already been covered in an edition of the Délit, a quebec newspaper. So sure I suppose this topic of biligualism and language politics is not of any interest for you guys in Europe, but it is a really pressing issue here in Canada. Hence it would be a good contribution to the elaboration of more articles about the 'French fact' and Anglo-franco tensions in Quebec, Canada and Francophonie. (talk) 16:19, 21 June 2011 (ET)
 * Actually, yes, winning in award is one criteria for "deserving" to be on Wikipedia. Every article is required to prove that they are somehow Notable, that means showing that important people (culturally important, socially important, ect) are talking about it, it's won awards, it has achieved a wide audience, ect. Wikipedia isn't the place to "give things a shot" it's a compilation of things already deemed noteworthy. HominidMachinae (talk) 01:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

There's a confusion here. What you don't understand is that something doesn't need to win an award to be valuable or notable. You're the illustration of today's society, blinded by how things shine and knowing only what you're told to know, watching what you're told to watch, etc. It's not because this project is not part of a big production is somehow independent, that it needs to be completely ignored and erased like you're trying to do. It is only that way that we will encourage independent production to go on and to be shared with a wider audience, instead of favouring defective blockbusters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.235.230 (talk) 01:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * you are correct, something doesn't need to win an award to be notable, but winning in award is ONE way that something can be notable. Other ways include widespread critical acclaim (or panning, see The Room (film)), discussion in third-party sources, selection for national archives, widespread distribution, presence in film school course syllabuses or textbooks and being reviewed by high-profile reviewers.  The question here is if this film meets any of the criteria laid out in WP:GNG and its addendum Notability (films) HominidMachinae (talk) 03:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. No independent reliable sources have been provided yet. Student films are not inherently notable, nor would being covered in Le Délit français (a student newspaper at the same university where the film was produced) establish general notability for the film. This film does not appear to satisfy any of the criteria for notability at Notability (films) yet, although it may do so in the future. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * keep just to come back to the first comment, tvmcgill.com does say something about it if you look at the reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yonyon21 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete without prejudice. The film is not currently notable as described WP:NF, but it may be at some point. It may be appropriate to userfy with the possibility of becoming of note. BOVINEBOY 2008 14:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.