Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belaire Apartments (2nd nomination)


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The result was   no consensus.--Bigtimepeace | talk |  contribs 07:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Belaire Apartments
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This is just an apartment complex. Other than the news story of a plane crash, theres nothing else notable about this building since its just apartments! Was nominated before on the same day of the plane crash:Articles for deletion/524 East 72nd Street during its 15 minutes of fame. --Coasttocoast (talk) 01:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2006 New York City plane crash. Both articles contain same/similar information. Tavix (talk) 02:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete; non-notable. Titanium Dragon (talk) 07:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect; per Tavix, subject is only famous for that one incident and most information is repeated there. The only new stuff is a list of residents and a few notes about construction etc - some of the more useful info could be merged there.  Not really notable enough for its own article - Dumelow (talk) 08:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above.--Berig (talk) 09:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a 42 story apartment house with multiple world famous residents, and would be notable quite independently of the crash. Even for NYC, that's distinctive.  "just apartments" is a poor argument--those things notable in any sphere are notable. Incidentally, there';s more to its history than just apartments. I am not sure that everyone commenting has read the article. DGG (talk) 18:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge. I'm not enthralled by this article but it does meet notability criteria. It's not just (condo) apartments, it's also a wing of the Hospital for Special Surgery. Still... In almost any other city in the world it would be notable; in NYC it's the 196th tallest building, well below (literally!) the 82-building list on our own List of tallest buildings in New York City. I'm probably feeling anti-mergist for unrelated reasons today but most of the info is already there. --Dhartung | Talk 19:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Agree with DGG. "Just apartments" is a poor description and article deletion rationale.  Besides the crash, the very notable multiple residents here demonstrates notability.  There is enough secondary sources to warrant inclusion. --Oakshade (talk) 03:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This building houses several notable people and has a hospital tenant on its ground floor, besides the news incident in 2006. I scaled back some of the redundant plane crash info; this building needn't be known just for that. White 720 (talk) 19:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 00:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.