Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beleichtungen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Dos Yiddishe Licht. Two people argued to merge, but the counter-argument that without references, you don't have WP:V, precludes a merge. Still, the suggested merge target does mention this, so a redirect, per WP:ATD seems reasonable. The history is still available, so if anybody wants to mine this for material to merge. If you do that, however, you need to find WP:RS to support any merged material. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:38, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Beleichtungen

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Doesn't seem to pass GNG or Notability guidelines, references are not even for the subject of the article. Sir Joseph (talk) 18:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Sir Joseph (talk) 18:40, 31 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. I deleted the blogspot under references as well as the other entry that also doesn't apply. Yoninah (talk) 18:43, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep . Mostly notable as Das Yiddishe Licht, and not the newer Beleichtungen. Title probably should be the newer one, but Das Yiddishe Licht should redirect here. As a Yiddish paper in Jerusalem - English BEFOREing won't get you far (though I suspect the yiddishkeit rags in New York probably do refer, in Yiddish, to the Jerusalem Yiddish rag). There are however quite a few Yiddish (which is harder for me to assess RS-wise) and Hebrew hits, for instance: This academic paper on the use of Hebrew and the Yiddish language used in DYL (lots of different types of Yiddish are extant - though following the Holocaust, it has all become a mishmash)..... Here a Haredi paper refers to DYL. Quite a few Hebrew book hits, harking back quite a bit (e.g. 1945) - . I would expect even more hits in Yiddish literature - whose online availability is spotty, to say the least (Hebrew ain't great either online, but there's quite a bit more). Icewhiz (talk) 09:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Dos Yiddishe Licht. As a DYL was created too, and since I do not think Beleichtungen is independentally notable from DYL per my search - a merge to there, leaving a redirect, is probably the best course.Icewhiz (talk) 19:38, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Partial merge to a disambiguation page. Unless there is enough material for a standalone page, I think a redirect to a disambiguation page instead of an unrelated newspaper would be preferable and less confusing for readers. 24.84.14.158 (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * When the material is withou any references it simply does not make it as a new article. If the material somehow, usually through overight, has already made it as an article, we do not send it elsewhere but eliminate it altogether. -The Gnome (talk) 10:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 18:33, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Unrefenced and a decade old. No evidence ever independentally notable.  Nothing to "Merge" as there are no references; must be Delete. Britishfinance (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete since there are no references verifying any kind of independent notability. In fact, there are no references out there, period. -The Gnome (talk) 10:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note that most of what is out there is writtent in Yiddish (much off line, some online), written in Hebrew letters.Icewhiz (talk) 10:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.