Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bellator 137


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   procedural close. Article was deleted by creator's request and re-made as a redirect. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 04:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Bellator 137

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We've been through this process and it was ultimately decided Bellator MMA pages would be done by season/year. No need for this to have its own stand alone entry. Udar55 (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Disagree - No, it was decided that Bellator season events would not have their own articles. For the first time, Bellator is not going off a season basis. This is even mentioned on the Bellator MMA in 2015 page. It's still early in the year and I can create pages for the other 2015 events as well. It's not a matter of notability as Bellator is factually the second biggest MMA promotion in the world. If WSOF can have its own articles, why can't Bellator? I understand why it was decided that Bellator season events stay on one page. But as of 2015, Bellator has turned over a new leaf as to how they classify their events. Not as a season but in a way similar to UFC. If Bellator has made that change, why can't we? This is not a long-term project, it is very doable. And I can do the work if everyone else doesn't want to. WWE Batman131 (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * "If Bellator has made that change, why can't we?" Because it has already been decided that Bellator doesn't need stand alone pages. I've been handling the Bellator pages since day one and fought against the change to one page/seasons, but Wikipedia ruled against it.  So I'm going by the rules they set.  It appears you weren't even here then, so perhaps you should read this before insisting on changes on your own accord. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/Archive 7 Udar55 (talk) 17:07, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Commenting from the peanut gallery Wikipedia if it does rule it is by consensus. The discussion Udar55 pointed out was done in 2011 and circumstances can and do change.  I think it might be worth a revisit considering the changes in Bellator format.  I have no opinion which direction it should go.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm just trying to save WWE Batman131 (and the MMA Wiki project) some time as individual Bellator pages will eventually get deleted. And a show headlined by Kendall Grove isn't particularly notable in the first place. Udar55 (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I got that. I agree that the consensus right now is no individual pages.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand where you're coming from Udar. I don't want to change the past. I only want to create lone articles for Bellator events post-season 11 as Bellator is no longer being done in seasons. I don't mind creating pages for the other 6 events. It should only take a couple of days. But I don't want to stir up trouble. If you guys are worried or concerned still, I'll rest my case. Oh and lol, yes I know an event headlined by Kendall Grove doesn't seem that notable, but neither does one headlined by David Branch and Ronny Markes, right? WWE Batman131 (talk) 21:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete An MMA event scheduled for May that appears to have 1 announced fight. I see nothing that shows this fight card meets WP:EVENT. Papaursa (talk) 00:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Not really a reason for deletion but if you want I can leave it as a redirect as more fights will be announced over the next few weeks. This is what's almost always done with UFC events. WWE Batman131 (talk) 00:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * How is not meeting WP:EVENT not a reason for deletion? Papaursa (talk) 00:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Because most UFC fight cards have one fight announced at first and they still have articles. We leave redirects for those pages until more fights are announced. Based on what you're saying, 95% of UFC event articles would be deleted upon creation. I know this because I have experience editing articles as such. Your username does not seem very familiar when it comes to MMA articles, so how could you know how things have been done. I've already done the same with the Bellator 137 article. If you'd like, I can request opinions from experienced MMA article editors just like Udar. WWE Batman131 (talk) 01:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you will find that Papaursa goes much further back with MMA articles than you do - that only reflects your recent activity not his. Neither matters.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:26, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean any disrespect. What I'm saying is that I can ask for opinions from other experienced MMA event article editors, if you'd like. WWE Batman131 (talk) 21:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough.Peter Rehse (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Here are the editors I'm speaking of: Gsfelipe94, Ppt1973, Imhungry4444, Psycho-Krillin, and SQGibbon. WWE Batman131 (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete I see nothing that shows this fight card will be historically significant or produce anything other that routines sports reporting, so it fails both GNG and EVENT. Mdtemp (talk) 19:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
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