Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belton Knapp


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW. Closing per unanimous consensus. — Aitias // discussion  01:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Belton Knapp

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I can find no evidence that Belton Knapp exists with either with Google or maps of the area Iccaldwell (talk) 10:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- the wub  "?!"  10:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Only references to Belton Knapp in Wikipedia are made by the same user, User:ElsieWright. Could be a good faith attempt to write about an settlement of local significance, or it could be a hoax. As it stands, delete as unverifiable. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 11:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, while there is a small group of houses and a farm ("Church Farm") at the coordinates given, I can find no evidence that this has a separate name from the very near village of Naunton. It does not look large enough for the claimed population of 85 people, nor is there a standing church in evidence. Even if there were 85 people at this location, it would be exceedingly unlikely to have any culture or significant identity distinct from that of the neighbouring village that is over 4 times its claimed population. Regarding the name, the only reference to a settlement of this name independent of Wikipedia, is in which is a short fictional story. Furthermore I cannot find a pub by the name of "Green Man" anywhere near the B4068. This therefore fails WP:V as completely unverifiable. Thryduulf (talk) 11:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) Delete as hoax. Possibly from the same fertile imagination as this tale on abctales.com. Location 12 miles east of Cheltenham and geocoords given are roughly those of Naunton, but no settlement of this name on the OS map of the area. Qwfp (talk) 11:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The only reference to Belton Knapp I found was this fictional story . I have also searched for the Green man pub (which is also mentioned in that story), the Priory Church of Saint Mary and Saint Anne and the school of Saint Anne's. I came up with nothing in the area where Belton Knapp is supposed to be. Putney Bridge (talk) 11:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:V. I've added an AfD notification on the talk page of the article's creator, as it might be interesting to see what s/he has to say. Deor (talk) 13:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Despite the wealth of detail given, the lack of any specific refernece to anything nearby leads me to be suspicious. There is a refernece to the "Parish Council", but it does not say which.  If it was a parish in its own right, it would probably have a parish meeting not a parish council (on account of its low population).  I have looked at OS Landranger 163, but there is a pub at SP009232, but it was called "Fox Hill" on 1st edn OS 6-inch (see this old map.  It all seems to be WP:HOAX.  I wonder if the hoaxer is trying to mislead us on account of a memory of the name Belas Knap.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable, with credit to everyone's evidence, but particular to Thryduulf's contribution. Otumba (talk) 17:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Unverifiable at best. Edward321 (talk) 13:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete It's a hoax; it is absent from http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/uk/england/county/gloucestershire/towns-villages.htm which is comprehensive. Saga City (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: The "May Festival" section, along with the references to "Warner's Green," seems to be related to this piece of fiction written by the same author as the one cited by Thryduulf and Putney Bridge above. Deor (talk) 19:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. A clever hoax; Knapp is a name and placename more associated with south Gloucestershire/Avon than east Gloucestershire, and the conversational tone, unlikely facts and complete lack of sourcing give the game away. The complete absence of this name in any sources whatsoever clinches it. Fences  &amp;  Windows  22:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
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