Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Avery Shooting Facility


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy keep, obvious disruption of Wikipedia to make a point. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 18:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Ben Avery Shooting Facility

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A non-notable shooting range with zero independent media coverage. All independent sources cited in article serve to establish only that it exists, in Phoenix. Formulafiftypoet 16:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * keep - the Arizona Game & Fish Dept says it's the "largest public operated shooting facility in the US", according to a broken link (footnote 1). Phoenix Pride Commission has chosen it as one of the Phoenix Points of Pride. Also, the "facility was selected as the 1970 host of the ISSF World Shooting Championships". "Competitive events are held at the range". I don't know exactly what could be suitable notability criteria for a publicly-run facility, but I think these above points are pretty good. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 16:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Being nominated as a local tourist attaction by the city that owns it does not count as independent coverage; not does once being the site of a competition in 1970. Formulafiftypoet 16:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * comment - also, at this point, Formulafiftypoet, even I'm getting suspicious of your motives. Please read WP:POINT and explain why you think you're not going to be banned in the next 15 minutes. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 16:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per above. Please actually read the article before nominating for deletion, otherwise it looks like you're disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point.  Friday (talk) 16:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you provide direct, non-trivial independent media coverage of the facility? Pleae engage in discussion. Formulafiftypoet 16:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, location of first "mounted shooting" competition. Touted as the model for shooting ranges in Reno & Denver, considered to have a national reputation, etc. --Dhartung | Talk 17:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I encourage people to read the article provided; also to note that, whatever mounted shooting is, it's not itself notable enough to be on the wiki. Formulafiftypoet 17:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep and close. First, notability is well touted in the article.  Second, the International Archery Federation lists this as a permanent location for themselves - something that they don't do to just any location.  Considering these details and some of the responses from the nom, I call bad faith on the part of the nom. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 17:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - looked through the user's contributions. On this grounds alone, I'm highly suspicious of WP:POINT as well. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 17:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looks like an advert to me.  However, I have to concede that the largest public shooting facility in the US is probably notable, particularly given the history noted above. What's the deal with this Formulafifty person trying to bump off all these articles? Cap&#39;n Walker 17:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Jessica Smith (poet). -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 17:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. Formulafiftypoet, please change your vote. Sorry, couldn't resist.  Cap&#39;n Walker 17:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.