Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben C. Toledano


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

Given the weight of the arguments and precedent of articles such as this, I conclude delete.  Singu larity  06:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ben C. Toledano

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An unsuccessful candidate for a mayoralty and local far-right journalist. No evidence of passing WP:BIO. Major soiurce was user:Billy Hathorn's masters dissertation. Guy (Help!) 21:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Keep Toledano article.Even if he were "just" a "local" "far-right" journalist, wouldn't he qualify? What if he were a "far-left" columnist? And is "local" acceptable for the large New Orleans metro area? Actually, he has worked for National Review, which is non-local. I have included an excerpt of one of his recent columns on the political aftermath of Katrina. Would this cause you to withdraw your opposition? Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the lists of Louisiana-related deletions, Politicians-related deletions, and History-related deletions. See WikiProject Deletion sorting/Louisiana for a list of related AfDs of articles by the same editor. -- A. B. (talk) 23:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. The name has many relevant ghits but it may just be because his work has been published a lot on the internet. But if that is the case, doesn't that meet WP:N requirements? Billscottbob (talk) 04:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. This bio does not pass WP:BIO.  --Lockley (talk) 18:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Why couldn't he qualify merely being being the Republican senatorial candidate in 1972 as well as the only Republican seriously to contest the New Orleans mayoral race? Plus, he is a fairly well-published journalist, as the article indicates. There is an article on Gloria Williams Hearn and she qualifies merely by being the Democratic U.S. House candidate in District 5 in 2004.

Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:22, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * delete unless we decide to change our policies and accept losing candidates of major for the national Senate & HR as notable. They have been consistently rejected in the past, I may be unusual here in think we should decide this by articulatable criteria rather than the chances of sourcing, and I think its time to reject the principle of ignoring consistency at Afd. It makes us look like irrepsonsible amateurs, instead of responsible amateurs aiming at a product of consistent quality. DGG (talk) 07:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

So, why haven't you recommended the deletion of Gloria Williams Hearn, a failed congressional candidate? Is it because of the author? Why would educator Hearn qualify and journalist Toledano not?

Billy Hathorn (talk) 07:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a significant figure in recent regional history and journalism. The characterization of him as "far-right" is absurd.  See his very recent article in Commonweal about New Orleans and how its Establishment had destroyed it before Katrina did.  He assuredly deserves an entry.96.232.208.7 (talk) 12:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


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