Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Isitt (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Ben Isitt
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Isitt is a city councillor in Victoria, British Columbia. With only 80,000 residents, it's not big enough for councillors to automatically merit their own articles (as per WP:NPOL and WP:POLOUTCOMES). Isitt is the only current councillor with his own article.

This article was previously nominated for deletion in 2015. At the time, it was decided to keep it despite it not meeting the notability standards for politicians, as Isitt met the notability standards for authors. I'm not sure this is the case; he's certainly not notable enough to meet WP:AUTHOR, and of his three books, two have stub articles created at the last AfD and one is redlinked. The books may be notable as per WP:TBK as they were published by academic presses, but I don't believe that inherently confers notability on the author.

The article also has a very long history of edits by IP users who only or mostly contributed to Isitt's biography. There may be WP:COIPOLITICAL considerations. Madg2011 (talk) 19:20, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete Being a city councilor in a city this size does not grant automatic notability, the sources are not sufficient to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I was the nominator in the first discussion, and even though it closed keep on the basis of his activities as a writer rather than as a politician, I'm still not satisfied that his notability as a writer has been properly demonstrated here. The sourcing in the BLP is still sitting entirely on his city council work, and while two of his three books do have separate articles (From Victoria to Vladivostok and Militant Minority), they're not adequately substanced or sourced as being notable books either — we have to be able to say something more about a book than "it exists, here's a review from an academic journal to verify the fact, the end" for the book to actually warrant a Wikipedia article. So no, I'm still not seeing what it actually takes. Bearcat (talk) 15:12, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NPOL.   Dr Strauss   talk   15:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:07, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


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