Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Nuttall


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:14, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Ben Nuttall

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This is the third iteration of the article, deleted once A7 and once G11. Coverage already provided seems to be either of dubious reliability, coverage in the local paper, or coverage in the local paper on sites of dubious reliability. Admittedly, they've made it in the Birmingham Mail at least three times, but three mentions in your local paper does not make notability. The claim that they've been on [http://www.motdmag.com/video/3287/around-the-world! the BBC] seems to boil down more to a claim that they've uploaded a youtube video to a BBC site that hosts youtube videos.

Besides that fairly obviously either an autobiography or created by some other type of COI account with fairly promotional language throughout. Most of the content that might indicate notability re: winning international competitions, I didn't find anything to back up really other than this Wikipedia article, so they appear to be either made up, or apparently not important enough to warrant coverage in secondary sources. G M G talk   18:58, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak deleteI was unsure about this, there does appear to be some limited mentions, and maybe there is more. Not helped by this (knew I recognized the name).Slatersteven (talk) 19:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not even clear that's the same person. There is apparently someone by the same name associated with Raspberry Pi, who all things considered, might not be notable, but seems like they may be more notable.  G M G  talk   19:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not saying that the Rugby player is the saem person (sorry if my point was not clear) what I was saying is that there is more then one Ben Nuttall and this complicates trying to verify notability.Slatersteven (talk) 20:19, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My bad. I dunno. When you just search for the name you get a ton of unrelated stuff, when you search for the name plus related phrases you get nearly nothing, and then only local coverage. At least the bit about "10 thousand fans on social media and over 1 million lifetime views" appears to be an outright lie, given 600 Twitter followers and ~3000 views on YouTube. Given that, and what appears to be a total lack of sources available, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other unsourced claims are also fabricated.  G M G  talk   20:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Does not meet either sports notability, and marginal as to general notability. Marginal notability should be decided in favor of neutrally written articles and against autobiographies and other conflict of interest stuff, and this appears to be an autobiography.  In short, delete it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:36, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 13:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think you can even apply NFooty here Giant, I think this straight down to, does he pass GNG, I'd say No. The article feels self written, and not enough independent citations for me. Govvy (talk) 14:58, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not sure what AFC were doing. Szzuk (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Szzuk. It wasn't AFAIK accepted through AfC, but was created both as an article in mainspace and as an AfC draft, and the histories of the two were then merged.  G M G  talk   20:01, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. L3X1  ◊distænt write◊  21:06, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails GNG. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  21:06, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Articles fails WP:GNG and possible COI. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete although it looks like this is actually a not yet approved AfC submission, so is this a sort of preemptive action, on the basis of the fact that AfC is set up so that the articles do not meet the same scrutiny as when they are actually created, as we have seen from recent cases where articles that had been deleted and salted were still approved through AfC.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:29, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. However, we should consider Draftifying, perhaps he might perform in a major avent soon. Avaay
 * Maybe you'll forgive us if we're a touch suspicious of an account whose first edit was to add several userboxes about how much featured content they have contributed to?  G M G  talk   14:02, 3 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 14:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


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