Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Parris


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 01:52, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Ben Parris

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Of the seven references currently provided in this article, the subject is not mentioned anywhere in references 1 or 2; #3 and #4 are both profiles rather than news articles; #5 is a link to a publisher's website; #6 is a primary source; and #7 is a personal blog without an editorial staff or oversight. There is lots of evidence that this person exists, but there does not appear to be enough evidence to substantiate a notability claim. Article was created by an SPA. KDS4444 (talk) 20:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete I have to agree that there's limited evidence of notability. The main item would be the author's book, Wade of Aquitaine, except it was self-published 9 years ago, and despite claims of initially being highly ranked on the Kindle, only has 22 reviews at this date.  If you take away the book, it's even harder to demonstrate Mr. Parris' notability.  I'm putting a delete vote on the book article as well. Timtempleton (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

There is a biography of Ben Parris, which can be found at this link--(one of the references): http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?Ben_Parris He is notable, not only for his novel, but he has won national awards. SFrancis1608 (talk) 11:05, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Please provide a link to any reference that mentions a national award and Mr. Parris' name. The article as it stands only asserts this, but provides no evidence of it being true.  KDS4444 (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

What do you do when the online source that the article relied upon for years is no longer maintained? There must be many articles for which references aren't maintained--does this mean that they are no longer notable? I can provide you with a greatly reduced version of a bit of the information, about the Unisys Prize for Online Science Education 2002: http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=edtech&month=0204&week=a&msg=pLLX/s639z6aldCAVzBdgg&user=&pw= but the reference wasn't maintained. SFrancis1608 (talk) 19:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Director of the "Long Island Museum of Science & Technology" certainly sounds like a claim to notability, except I can't fina bluselink. The place doee have a webpage  but no gNews hits , and to have been subsumed by or merged into the Cradle of Aviation Museum.  Taking a fresh tack, I ran a Proqeust news archive search on "Ben Parris"   Bingo!  He and his museum were notable, Newsday: "LI Science Museum's Parris Becomes a Space Ambassador" Jackson, Tommi, 07 Oct 2002: p. A34. '  "COOL2KNOW," Washington Post; BY CARYN EVE MURRAY. Newsday, 13 Feb 2008: B.3. , .  More sources found.  There's enough here to keep, article needs a good editing/editor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:08, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:19, 29 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per E.M.Gregory's excellent research. bd2412  T 01:21, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   18:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete article is on him as a self-published author. I'd probably support keeping a heavily edited version of the article. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


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