Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Simons (politician)


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The result was keep. Consensus is the coverage rises above BLP1E, and satisfies GNG. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Ben Simons (politician)

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Does not meet WP:NPOL as a small-town mayor and does not appear to meet WP:BASIC. There is coverage, but it is local to Oregon. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per GNG. The Oregonian, Register-Guard, Willamete Week, Seattle Times, etc. These are not all just "local" papers; The Oregonian is the largest newspaper in Oregon and the second largest in the Pacific Northwest by circulation. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't expect all notable mayors to get national media coverage. State-wide coverage is sufficient. Liz Read! Talk! 18:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This violates one event rules. He receives trivia following short coverage for being exceptionally young, no actual substantial coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per . I added, as an External link, an NPR interview of the subject on the "Think Out Loud" program Also, AfD noms conducting WP:BEFORE need to be aware that the WP article title for DAB purposes is sometimes not a good search term. In this instance, searching on "Ben Simons mayor" was more effective than "Ben Simons (politician)". I stopped at 5 non-Oregon sources below. Per WP:ARTN, ...if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Wikipedia article will not decrease the subject's notability. . This article meets WP:GNG. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 05:06, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  (Albany, New YorkY)
 * 2)  (Honolulu, Hawaii)
 * 3)  (Lansing, Michigan)
 * 4)  (Moscow, Idaho)
 * 5)  (Washington, DC).
 * Keep. Passes WP:GNG. Lefcentreright  Talk &#124;   Contribs   &#124;   Global 12:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unless somebody can improve the article. Mayors are not automatically notable just because they exist, happening to be the youngest mayor in his own town's history does not make him more special than other mayors of the same town all by itself, and the existence of a WP:BLP1E blip of "town elects new mayor" coverage immediately after his initial election does not secure passage of WP:GNG all by itself — the test for mayoral notability is the ability to write a substantive article about his work in the mayor's chair, documenting and sourcing specific projects he spearheaded, specific effects he had on the city's development, and on and so forth, all sourced to ongoing career coverage rather than just repeated reverification of his initial election victory. If you can't write an article like that, then a mayor does not get an inclusion freebie just because it's possible to source his birthdate and where he went to college. Bearcat (talk) 17:55, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete His age is a curiosity but part-time officials in very small towns are generally not notable from routine coverage. A merge to Yoncalla, Oregon may be appropriate. Reywas92Talk 04:35, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NPOL and WP:NOTNEWS, all of the coverage of him is from his election, it's routine, and he is not an official of any sort of political division that we would consider remotely notable. If he continues to receive coverage we can take another look, but he's definitely not permanently notable just for winning a hyper-local election at a young age. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:54, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I've added some content and one source related to projects completed in his first year in office. However, if this is not enough to meet NPOL, merging with Yoncalla, Oregon where there is a mention of his election already, would be appropriate, as suggested by . Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 08:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with adding this information to the Yoncalla article and that is probably the correct result. The local news station article on a local mayor, which is the "first year in office" article, wouldn't be enough for him to have a standalone article given how we treat local American mayors, especially of small towns such as this one. He's still not really eligible for a standalone article (in spite of the ARS !votes below) as all of the coverage is a one-off or hyper-local but I think this would be well suited for the town article. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * As nom, I'd also support a selective merge to Yoncalla, Oregon. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 22:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Passes WP:GNG the coverage in RS is there. Notable for being the youngest mayor ever elected in Yoncalla, Oregon and he received significant coverage as Another Believer has stated. At the least we have a WP:NBIO pass. Lightburst (talk) 20:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per GNG. User:Liz, User:Lightburst and User:Grand& are right in their reasoning.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, this level of coverage is clearly exceptional for a small-town mayor, he passes GNG and WP:MILL. Devonian Wombat (talk) 05:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


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