Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Zeskind (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete as per consensus. Pastor Theo (talk) 00:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ben Zeskind
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I know this was just AfD'd and closed as keep a month ago, but here me out. Not only is he not-notable as a low level minor league player, but the arguments in the last AfD were flawed. The two other people to say keep said all minor leaguers is notable, which is dead wrong. They need to have secondary sources about them beyond notes, which is all that's on this guy. Playing in the New York Penn League is not notable no matter how to try and tweak it. If this is kept it essentially opens the floodgates for hundreds of thousands of minor league players throughout the years. Delete this. Wizardman 16:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:ATHLETE is already too lax, allowing for thousands of sub-stubs that will never be expanded. We don't need articles on every minor league player to boot. If they're not covered in RS, they're not notable. Lara  16:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per failure of WP:ATHLETE. Minor league players are not notable just for that. Nosleep  break my slumber 18:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Addendum Now, of course, minor league baseball players are professionals. No one's arguing against that. But they aren't the highest level of the sport. I used to work for a short season A team, and I know that a lot of the players at that level don't even make enough money to live by themselves, making them about as notable as any other 20-year-old with any other job trying to make ends meet. And you know who else are professionals? Members of the NBA D-League. Have a look at Albuquerque Thunderbirds. Only four names are linked in the roster - two players who have played in the NBA (and thus satisfactory of WP:ATHLETE), and two are actually mistaken links, one to a disambiguation page and one to an unrelated article. I think the notability of minor league baseball is quite the same. Nosleep  break my slumber 19:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Wizard. Didn't play at the highest level. Drmies (talk) 21:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:ATHLETE is only a guideline and there is no consensus that every person who receives money to play a sport is notable. Multiple websites rehashing the same stats or line-up changes is not "significant coverage". Location (talk) 22:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:ATHLETE. Joe Chill (talk) 00:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per everybody else; fails ATHLETE  Chzz  ►  09:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, small time player, fails WP:ATHLETE. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC).
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