Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benevolent Dictator for Life (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Benevolent Dictator for Life
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Self-given title applied to a single person with a mention of another person using it as his IRC nickname? I'm finding it hard to find its use as an IRC nickname notable at all, and Rossum's original use of the title does seem notable outside of his own article. Previously AfDed with Keep and suggestion of merging into The Cathedral and the Bazaar however, nothing in the article appears to relate to that, so reAfding as it is already covered with about the same breadth as Guido van Rossum. Collectonian 21:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC) --Closeapple 10:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Soft Redirect to Guido van Rossum. If it is a psuedonym for the guy, it may as well redirect to him, right? I must say I'm quite confused by the contents of the previous AfD.  -Verdatum 22:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * delete this article is pure speculation, and if not anything else should be merged into the article related to the creator, not a seperate strand, related only to his nickname.Eastonlee 01:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment How is the article speculation? Dispite all it's failings, it is certainly properly citing references. -Verdatum 01:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to Guido van Rossum. --Blanchardb- Me  MyEarsMyMouth-timed 15:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Okay, I read the somewhat confusing AfD, I read the article, and I looked at each and every ref. There's nothing here. As far as I can tell, the term is used only *once* in any of the references in relation to to Guido van Rossum: "As long as the community recognises me as the BDFL (benevolent dictator for life) of Python, I have an effective veto right on any change proposals." That's it. The rest may mention the phrase "benevolent dictator" in some form or another, but don't seem to relate to Rossum. No notability to the so-called title at all. Not even worth merging in my opinion. Tim Ross ·talk  18:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge with Guido van Rossum - While I'm pretty sure the term refers to other open source project leaders as well, and I personally find it notable, the article as it stands can't stick around. It needs a complete rewrite to demonstrate its notability; indeed, it will need to be written about something more than just a nickname for Guido. -FrankTobia 19:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rearrange with splits and moves. I'm not sure where.  "Benevolent dictator" for software development might be notable enough to have at least a section, maybe an article, since multiple people have generally been described that way, but there isn't enough difference in "for life" and not "for life" to justify splitting the software development meaning across two articles as it is now, and people are going to get "BD" and "BDFL" confused for sure.  Benevolent dictator is up for deletion also: Articles for deletion/Benevolent dictator, so now is a good time to do the content dance.  Ideas in my order of preference (same as I posted on the other AfD, but from this article's perspective):
 * Idea 1: Merge the state government (non-software) parts of Benevolent dictator into Enlightened absolutism or a section of Dictator. Then move/merge Benevolent Dictator for Life and software part of Benevolent dictator into a new Benevolent dictator (software development) and make Benevolent dictator an disambig for the software and state meanings.
 * I second that. Seems reasonable. --LuckyStarr 22:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I vote for it, too. Redistribute and then redirect from here. --DyingGasp 15:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Idea 2: Merge Benevolent Dictator for Life and software section of Benevolent dictator into Lead programmer, if appropriate. Leave the remainder (state government part) of Benevolent dictator to its business over there, whether that's being deleted or merged separately.
 * Idea 3: Merge Benevolent Dictator for Life into Benevolent dictator, assuming that article survives AfD itself.
 * 'dabify 132.205.99.122 23:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't redirect. What we have here are several similar titles that have been pulled together to try and make an article but there is no article here. I also don't see the benefit in redirecting to Guido van Rossum; no-one looking for his article is going to use this as a search term, surely? TerriersFan (talk) 01:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. BDFL might be a pithy little comment in the article on van Rossum, but it does not warrant an article all by itself.  PKT (talk) 02:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.