Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benito Mussolini's religious beliefs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Benito Mussolini. Stifle (talk) 15:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Benito Mussolini's religious beliefs
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Content fork that can be more than adequately covered in the Benito Mussolini article. Prod removed without comment by article creator. Fabrictramp |  talk to me  13:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  13:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  13:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  13:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Benito Mussolini article. Although we have something similar in the form of Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs, articles about a famous person's religion are rare.  In some cases, as with Hitler, the person's beliefs had a profound effect upon society, rather than the other way around.  Mandsford (talk) 14:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge but honestly, why did you add the deletion tag? Its the wrong tag. Eurovision 2009 and 2010Sasha SonSakis Rouvas 15:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy."? Since it appears that this article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy, it looks like the right tag to me.  What tag would you have put on there if you had been nominating it for deletion? Mandsford (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume Koshoes meant that a proposed merger would have been better than deletion, not that the tag itself is inaccurate. Olaf Davis (talk) 16:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with a merge, but this is a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". When I've proposed a merge on these kinds of stubs (and there's not much to merge that isn't already in the article), people complain that it will leave a redirect that shouldn't exist and that I should have sent to AfD. If I send to AfD, people complain it should have just been merged and not sent to AfD. I flipped a coin on this, and it came up AfD.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  18:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge since it contains more information on his religion than the main article does but not enough to necessitate a separate article, and I don't see any sources indicating it's a 'big' enough topic on its own to need one. Olaf Davis (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with Benito Mussolini and cut some of the specifics that are too detailed. Cheers.  I 'mperator 18:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with Benito Mussolini and keep those specifics that aren't. knoodelhed (talk) 19:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge useful information with Benito Mussolini as this is a POV fork. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment There is something wrong here: anyone who thinks that the material is adequately covered in the article on Mussolini should read that article and try to find the scattered bits of information--not that it's covered well in this stub of an article either. For that matter, it isn't covered fully in the itWP There are a number of good sources--see [ just in GScholar.  [[User:DGG|DGG]] (talk) 01:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Stay Far from being an unimportant person Mussolini both ruled Italy and created Fascism an ideology that continues to dog the world. His relationship with religion is also there for of interest especially since it hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as Hitler's.  It is also important to note that the article is a stub and should be much better in a month or so.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbulle (talk • contribs) 01:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge - Existing content of the article is insufficient for maintaining a separate article. If content is sufficiently developed later to make recreating as a separate article desirable, that would be different, but that is not the current situation. John Carter (talk) 13:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge - This is the only subarticle on Mussolini: we do not need this kind of thing forked off. That only becomes useful if the article becomes enormous, but that does not apply.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The whole thing is original research. The basic information should be included in his main article, if it is not already. However there is no way for anyone to know what his beliefs really were. We can only give the facts of what he said and did in his life, not read his mind to know his beliefs. BTW Benito Mussolini needs a lot of work. It would be better to improve that article rather than start a new one on a sub-topic. Borock (talk) 00:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - and then consider merge with Benito Mussolini through proper merge discussion. AfD should not be used in lieu of a merge discussion, and the nomination appears to endorse a merge. Rlendog (talk) 19:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge, and a redirect is fine. I am not of the opinion that stubs should be written with the hope that a month later there will be sources added, miraculously perhaps, that will establish the truth and verifiability of the statements made in said article. Whatever can be brought in to verify these claims should be brought into the main article. Rbulle, you keep adding information--what are the sources for these statements? Drmies (talk) 05:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.