Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Alexander (writer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ST47 (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Benjamin Alexander (writer)

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Sources claiming that facilitated communication is a valid technique are not reliable. Fails WP:RS. If reliable sources cannot be found, this page must be deleted.

Additionally, this article relies too much on primary sources. See WP:USEPRIMARY Ylevental (talk) 22:13, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:44, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:44, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. The only issue is whether the biography meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. See my comments at Articles for deletion/Sue Rubin.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:55, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: The issue is WP:RS. Sources that fail to acknowledge the pseudoscientific status of facilitated communication are not reliable. —Wikiman2718 (talk) 23:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The sourcing is a satisfactory start, and Mr. Alexander is quite the notable subject.TH1980 (talk) 03:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment WP:AVOIDVICTIM applies here. Also, all of the mainstream media sources push a fringe positions. Per WP:NFRINGE, "a fringe subject (a fringe theory, organization or aspect of a fringe theory) is considered notable enough for a dedicated article if it has been referenced extensively, and in a serious and reliable manner, by major publications that are independent of their promulgators and popularizers. References that debunk or disparage the fringe view can be adequate, as they establish the notability of the theory outside of its group of adherents." --Wikiman2718 (talk) 09:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Insufficient sourcing at this time to write a policy-compliant article. Deletion policy#Reasons for deletion lists #9 Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons. I see no reasonable way to reasonably comply with Wikipedia's various policies until we have sourcing sufficiently addressing the communication being attributed to Benjamin Alexander. It looks like at least five policies, guidelines, and respected-essays have been cited above, and that's just the beginning of the mess. The article is intractable without more sourcing. Attempts to deal with the article have unavoidably been dragged into the territory of Original Research and Synthesis, and we can't even include ABOUTSELF in this biography. The nominally "self statements" are supplied by someone else, and there is sufficient question of their authorship that they clearly fail our reliable sourcing standards. In regards to the other available sources, note that the Reliability of any source is not absolute. Reliability is always evaluated in terms of a specific work from that publisher and in terms of the specific information being cited, in relation to the current article. Even a top-line source such as New York Times would be severely called into question at Reliable Source Noticeboard if the NYT published an interview or other information obtained via telepathy or channeling of dead spirits, without even commenting that the communication might be questioned, without giving any indication they even considered the issue and that they actively consider this case reliable. If Benjamin is the author of the words attributed to him, I see no reasonable way to simultaneously comply with BLP and other policies until we have adequate sourcing about his communication. The attempts to indirectly attribute the words to him in a qualified manner are atrocious for a living biography. If Benjamin is not the author of the words attributed to him, I see no reasonable way to simultaneously comply with BLP and other policies until we have adequate sourcing about the source of those words. The attempts to indirectly attribute the words to him in a qualified manner are atrocious for a living biography. 35.8.88.120 (talk) 12:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: a related AfD with higher participation has been closed as delete. Sunrise (talk) 11:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The situation is analogous to the discussion on the Amy Sequenzia article. We cannot write a policy-compliant article. Haukur (talk) 13:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.