Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin B


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The result was   keep. (Weak) (non-admin closure) NuclearWarfare  contact me My work  02:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Benjamin B

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Non-notable band. One of the millions of bands worldwide that have recorded a few albums but failed to break through. Aecis·(away) talk 10:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. The band has a few releases on a label notable enough for their own article.  They seem to have receive a little bit of significant coverage, it's just not referenced. I would tag with unreferenced.  --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 11:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Excelsior has had a few succesful releases with Dutch indie rock bands like Alamo Race Track, Hallo Venray, Johan, Spinvis, Solo and Supersub. Enough to make the record label itself notable, but that doesn't make each and every band that has been signed to Excelsior notable. Aecis·(away) talk 11:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. To respond to the above, if Excelsior qualifies as a major indie label, and it appears that it does since it's not disputed that several notable bands are signed to that label, the release of multiple albums on that label appears to meet the music guidelines - see #5. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  12:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember that we are talking about Dutch indie rock music. That's about as niche as it gets. Aecis·(away) talk 06:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep, passes WP:MUSIC owing to multiple releases on a notable label. Easy. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. While they may just pass WP:MUSIC's specific criteria via album releases (I'm not totally convinced Excelsior is sufficiently important to confer notability on artists it releases records by), the lack of any coverage from reliable sources is still a problem for both notability (general notability criteria still apply) and verifiability. The Dutch version is also totally unsourced. A Google search found nothing that could be added to the article. I've tagged the article as unreferenced - maybe if the result is a keep, it could be revisited after time has been allowed for finding and adding sources.--Michig (talk) 17:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Having dug a bit deeper, I found the following: news article (translated version), live review (translated version) - I can't tell whether these would be classed as coming from reliable sources, but it's something at least.--Michig (talk) 18:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The first source you provided is the university newspaper of my alma mater. It's ok, but it's tiny and it's not read outside the university. The second source is one small review in a regional newspaper, De Gelderlander. As the article says, the gig drew 200 people. Aecis·(away) talk 06:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- raven1977 (talk) 05:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Its certainly more notable than Duff Beer. -75.171.190.1 (talk) 02:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC) — 75.171.190.1 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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