Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Daniel Summers


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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 05:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Benjamin Daniel Summers

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When I first read this article, it struck me as being very self-promotional. If I had to venture a guess, the main author ("lentollc") is Benjamin Daniel Summers or is someone who is trying to promote him.

This is a pretty long article, however it seems to be filled with a lot of fluff that does not equal notability. Let's start from the top and work our way down...

The article claims he "is the founder of Houston-based private investment company Adagio, LLC" and "The Scholar Athlete Academy by Ben Summers" in the lede, indicating that this is what he is mostly notable for. Being the founder of a semi-well-known investment company and an athletic training company does not make someone notable. Next...

His educational career is not notable and the stuff that fills this section really is just filler. For example "designed to investigate fundamental questions about the shape of the elemental differential energy spectra of cosmic rays from the low energy region around 10^10 eV through the highest practical energies, about 10^14 eV.[2] ... Fourier synthesis to the comprehensive set of just and equal temperament acoustic intervals and triads to uncover unique, objective relationships between consonant harmonies" is completely unnecessary in this article and if I had to guess was added just to give it more length. Next...

"Music compositions (partial list)" ... Non-notable listcruft. Next...

It seems as if the author is attempting to establish notability by this individual's associations rather than his actual accomplishments. For example, "Dicharry’s athletic career began as a quarterback (under offensive coordinator and former professional quarterback Robbie Mahfouz) and right-handed pitcher at Class 5-A Louisiana High School East Ascension..." Furthermore, it details his associations with Gayle Hatch, who at one point worked for Team USA apparently and it also says he pitched under Smoke Laval (another notable-by-association example). And it goes on and on and on with that. Eventually we learn that he played professional baseball...BUT his entire two year, 21-game career took place in the independent leagues, and his performance was not outstanding at that level. Therefore, it was not notable as it doesn't pass WP:BASE/N. Next...

Energy services career...so, he worked for a bunch of oil companies, just as hundreds and thousands of other people have done. Next...

Entrepreneurship...we come full circle to his entrepreneurship, where we learn about the none-too-notable businesses he founded. Next...

Personal...well, next...

Now for the references. The first one seems to be a self-written PR piece, so it is not "Independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. The next one is a link that just details the science project he worked on, the one after that is a link referencing the football player he worked under, the next one is just referencing a coach he trained with, the next one doesn't really link to anything that has much to do with the article, the next one links to Summers' professional baseball career (yay! One that actually reference the subject of the article!) but as I stated his career is hardly notable, the next one falls under WP:ROUTINE, and all the others are either "linkcruft" or WP:ROUTINE.

In short, this article says a lot but a lot of words ≠ notability. This article should be deleted. Alex (talk) 19:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Unless notability can be established (which seems unlikely). Looking at the creator's contributions, the user appears to be a WP:SPA with no purpose other than  promotion.  Although I cannot speak for others, I personally see no value in this page staying. - SudoGhost (talk) 02:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Lacks coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 16:58, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've deleted some of the NN material, to better see if there is anything notable left.  Which largely turns on whether The Scholar Athlete Academy by Ben Summers is really notable enough to have a wp article, which it has at the moment.  People might want to take a look at that article, with that question in mind.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - That article was also created by Lentollc, and is sourced only to a press release. I tagged it earlier for notability, but I don't think that it meets our inclusion criteria, but I did not spend much time searching for sources on it.  In any case, even if the academy is notable (which I doubt), there is still no coverage about Ben Summers. -- Whpq (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability as a baseball player WP:WPBB/N. Sources about subject's businesses are not independent of subject.  I corrected one source which was noted as being published from CNBC when actually it was a company published press release.  Claim that the subject changed names fails WP:V.  It is possible that these are two different people being pieced together without further sources (Don't build the Frankenstein ).  External link at Fanbase.com is not reliable, as anyone can edit it. Other external links are also not independent—they are his companies site's—Bagumba (talk) 10:23, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: I've initiated Articles for deletion/The Scholar Athlete Academy by Ben Summers which is related to this discussion. -- Whpq (talk) 15:36, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Doesn't meet our usual notability thresholds for minor leaguers, and no significant independent coverage of his business activities.--Arxiloxos (talk) 01:53, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons noted by the nominator. I also have serious BLP concerns.  All of the sources relating to the baseball career are about Ben Dicharry.  The article asserts, but cites no reliable source for the fact, that Dichary changed his name to Summers.  This is a serious issue.  Without solid verification of that claim, Wikipedia could be used to facilitate identity theft.  Not saying that's the case here, but we need to be extra careful in such situation.  This should be deleted rapidly IMO. Cbl62 (talk) 19:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
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