Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Hale


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 02:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Benjamin Hale

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Fails WP:Author. Might be famous one day; not yet though. Only biographical sources are self-published. Chris (talk) 08:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I disagree; there is already major buzz on this book in publishing circles and on the internet. See, for instance, these pages:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8109709-the-evolution-of-bruno-littlemore http://www.thebookladysblog.com/2010/05/30/its-not-bestiality-it-is-love/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/hp_blogger_Tonya%20Plank/the-most-anticipated-book_b_655312_55186944.html

It has also been blurbed (advance praise) by at least three major writers: Jonathan Ames, Edward Carey, and Anthony Swofford (http://benjamin-hale.com/BHale/aboutbook.html), and is being published at a major house, Twelve Books, which is an imprint of Hachette. Numkinface (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I also added non-self-published references for the bio information. Numkinface (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I quote from Hachette Book Group USA - the reference is to Twelve Books, an imprint of their Grand Central Publishing division: "Publishes one book per month that aspires to be high quality". Despite possibly not being a particularly original plotline (in the summary given, at least - I can recall similar plots from the heyday of SF), Hale has managed to get in print with a major publishing group. Publication (multi-format availability) is not until 2011, but as the book is listed and a release date set, I wouldn't think WP:CRYSTAL would come in. Peridon (talk) 17:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep A book with a major publisher meets notability and will certainly gain whatever coverage is missing, although my impession is that enough anticipatory coverage exists already VASterling (talk) 20:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and be open to re-creation if there ends up being significant press coverage of the book once it's out. Roscelese (talk) 20:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The article seems to be saying that a book of his will soon be published. Really there is nothing to say in an encyclopedia article until that happens, and even then not right away. If he is claimed to be important as a writer what can be said before people have read his works? Wolfview (talk) 07:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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