Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Nolte


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  08:40, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Benjamin Nolte

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I'm not really sure this person meets GNG. Subject is a party board member and unsuccessful state-Landtag candidate, both of which don't count for notability. ミラP 23:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. ミラP 23:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 19:23, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep user's obvious keep !vote, but failed to properly bold a keep so I did it for them. Nolte is notable because of the discussion of his far-right positions. His habit at Deutsche Burschenschaft is well coverd by the media. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 23:20, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You need to prove that with "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" if it does not meet any other applicable notability guideline for people. Also always remember to bullet your comments her at AFD. ミラP 23:39, 1 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep based on the sources reaarding the candidate's positions. The article needs work, and shoring up. but WP:NOTCLEANUP Wm335td (talk) 19:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for standing as candidates in legislative elections they did not actually win, but this makes no other credible claim that he has preexisting notability for other reasons. The fact that it's possible to show a couple of local media sources about his political opinions does not automatically make him more special than other candidates, either, because every candidate in every election can always show four or five pieces of that — some evidence of campaign coverage is simply and routinely expected to always exist for all candidates in all elections, so to make a candidate notable for that you have to show that he got a lot more of it than the norm, and five footnotes is not evidence of that. So no, nothing here makes him markedly more special than other unsuccessful political candidates. Bearcat (talk) 22:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete unelected candidates for public office are not notable for such. Any candidate will get coverage. We need something exceptional to justify an article, and that is not here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG, WP:NPOL. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:45, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep based on a quick search I see that the subject is a far-right candidate and that makes him notable: some of the coverage is in foreign press. Note: one does not have to win an election to be notable.Also sources are not always in the article WP:NEXIST Not sure I will have time to add them, but I will if I am feeling ambitious. Lightburst (talk) 02:17, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no such thing as "notable for being a candidate". Candidates can sometimes have preexisting notability for other reasons besides the candidacy per se (Cynthia Nixon, for instance, is not losing her article just because she didn't win when she ran for political office, because she had already cleared our notability standards for actors and thus already had an article years before she was ever a candidate for anything), and they can occasionally receive so much more coverage than other candidates get (i.e. Christine O'Donnell, who got such a massive firestorm of coverage that her article is actually longer, and cites significantly more sources, than the article about the guy she lost to) that their candidacy is demonstrably much more special than most other people's candidacies — but candidates are not automatically notable just for being candidates, regardless of where on the ideological spectrum they happen to fall, and neither of the ways that a candidate can become more notable than the norm have been shown true here. Bearcat (talk) 16:21, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Diverse views; Keeps should list the specific refs that they are relying on for GNG at AfD
 * Info: Nolte is notable in Germany beside of his political activities in AfD and as chairman of Young Alternative also in the fight about German Burschenschaft, conservative against far-rights. He supported the far-rights positions, were German Burschenschaft is today. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 11:55, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, People not elected  are not notable. Alex-h (talk) 12:33, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note The deWiki artice was pulled to draft space due to concerns regarding its creation, not its notability de:Wikipedia:Artikelwerkstatt/Friedjof/Benjamin Nolte. The text appears very similar. Agathoclea (talk) 12:00, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 01:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Leaning to a Delete as the Keeps have not yet listed the RS that fully meet GNG; try one last re-list

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 18:16, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * keep seems to have enough sources to keep, per WP:GNG. Let's improve, not delete.desmay (talk) 22:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)


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