Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin syndrome


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 01:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin syndrome

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Non-existent disease. It is NOT indexed in the [ICD] and it doesn't appear on Medicine books nowadays. It is a fake diagnosis. Martha2223 (talk) 02:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - The nominator's account appears to have been created for the single purpose of nominating this article for deletion. (See Special:Contributions/Martha2223.) - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete per WP:HOAX Qworty (talk) 03:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's not a hoax (see below) but for your reference, if it were, the correct policy to cite for a Speedy Delete result would have been WP:CSD (blatant hoax). - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as a hoax. Keep per Bilby. B figura  (talk) 03:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - on the grounds that it isn't a hoax, per the US National Library of Medicine. - Bilby (talk) 03:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * (As an aside, the NIM link from the article was broken when it was nominated, so there were no working references at the time) - Bilby (talk) 03:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

*Keep - Not a hoax, just controversial terminology. If I understand correctly - and this is just from on the spot research, I'm not remotely an expert - the term "transsexual", first coined by Harry Benjamin in 1966, has now been appropriated to mean something different, and so what Benjamin referrued to as "transsexualism" is now referred to in some quarters as "Harry Benjamin's syndrome". The controversy arises in that there's still dispute as to whether transsexualism is a biological or psychological condition, and the name "Harry Benjamin's syndrome" is inherently POV in favour of biological. However, whether or not it's a current medical diagnosis, it does carry a distinct meaning understood throughout a wide community of people. (See, , , - not necessarily reliable sources but clear evidence it's not a hoax.) A redirect may be appropriate but prima facie it's not a delete case. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Ah hah! I was led astray into confusing Benjamin syndrome (aka Benjamin anemia) with Harry Benjamin's syndrome!  In that case, weak keep per National Library of Medicine and searches.  Definitely exists, and in the case of medical conditions that means sources testifying to its notability are almost certain to exist, albeit often in specialised databases and publications. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Bad faith nom by a ban-evading sockpuppet of User:Marta314 (previous CheckUser). Jokestress (talk) 05:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep But I am not sure what is the standard form of the name for the condition. I have not yet found any recent papers.   DGG ( talk ) 05:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Its key feature is Chlorosis/Hypochromic anemia, but it has additional components (especially limb hypoplasia and mental retardation). That's why a merge isn't quite right. Environmental factors can cause hypochromic anemia, where this is part of a pervasive congenital condition. Jokestress (talk) 06:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Does exist - can indeed be found in Stedman's Medical Eponyms (page 63), as well as Firkin & Whitworth's Dictionary of medical eponyms. As stated above, the association of a number of symptoms and signs involved in a genetic condition would make this very difficult to merge without losing the detail of the syndrome. Gilo  &ouml;  06:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong keep - I'm familiar with this as being a genetic abnormality leading to hypochromic anemia. It's mentioned in Dictionary of medical eponyms and named after a German pediatrician. It's a pretty rare abnormality but it exists and is documented. Not to be confused with the unfortuately named neologism, Harry Benjamin Syndrome - A l is o n  ❤ 08:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: See Dictionary of medical eponyms - Ret.Prof (talk) 04:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete Non-existent disease. Not recognized with such name by the World Health Organization. Non-existent disease in realiable medical sources as PubMed. Not notability. The article should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.2.224.215 (talk) 15:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - unsigned user above is currently blocked; only previous contributions are to the AfD on Harry Benjamin's syndrome and to the article on User:Jokestress, who has commented above. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - now blocked 3 months for repeatedly abusing multiple accounts, per checkuser - A l is o n  ❤ 00:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I am sorry but this is a non existent disease, if it does not exist for the WHO then the disease don't exist officially. I agree that it should be deleted. Not reliable medical sources as PubMed and others mention it neither. Thanks. --Jaume Van Damme (talk) 15:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above user is a single-purpose account (contribs) and from context may be a sock puppet of the other Delete votes above. I suspect there are no good faith delete votes in this discussion. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, with the exception of Qworty, who I disagree with but don't doubt the good faith of. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.