Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bente Hammer


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The result was withdrawn (non-admin closure) --LlamaAl (talk) 18:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Bente Hammer

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Not notable, sorry. The Google Books hits are from guidebooks/tourist guides - "Design from Scandinavia" might be a RS, but if so, it seems to be the only one, she has a single index ref, and the preview isn't working. Nothing obviously RS on her on Google (I specifically searched for "El Nyker Hovedg" too with no success) but someone who reads Danish may be able to find sources in her own language. Appears to fails WP:RS and WP:GNG Mabalu (talk) 13:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * She has designed dresses for Danish royalty, a notable figure on Bornholm I believe. Guidebooks/travel guides are actually a good way to route out notable places and people. The fact that so many cover her actually suggests she is worthy of coverage on Bornholm. Ipigott is absent right now but I think there are enough hits in google books to at least past notability.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  13:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, but where are the sources? I agree about guidebooks but they are not suitable for WP sourcing, and I noticed that all three guidebooks had similar wording suggesting a common text source. Actually, there are several Danish language sources on Google Books which MIGHT be enlightening, though the previews suggest lists/passing references rather than in-depth coverage.Mabalu (talk) 14:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I have just done a more in-depth search for the subject and Margrethe, excluding her website and Wikipedia hits but really can't see anything that looks like RS. Am more than willing to retract this nomination if RS can be found. Doing a similar search with Ghika Norby looked a bit more promising, but many of the hits looked like they probably translated as "Textile designer Bente Hammer, John Doe, actress Ghika Norby, someone else, Jane Doe, at the same party somewhere." Mabalu (talk) 14:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ipigott is away at the moment, I'd have asked Aymatth2 but he's just gone too. I wonder if there is a Danish newspaper archive site. No hits in Highbeam.., , , , , ,  would all quality as reliable sources but I can't access them. As far as I can see she doesn't have an article in a Danish biographical dictionary with significant coverage though.♦  Dr. ☠ Blofeld  17:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  17:12, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw those book sources, but I'm not convinced most qualify as they appear to largely be routine name-checks and credits. However, this does show her name in a text context and in theory, would count. This and this might count too, but neither show the name in the snippet view so there's no context to judge from. I don't believe that the fact that someone's name appears in a long list of other names endows them with individual notability... Mabalu (talk) 18:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Mabalu (talk) 07:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG--Nixie9 (talk) 19:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is a skilled artist. The Danish press has covered her various creations in some detail. I'll try to expand the article in the next day or two. --Ipigott (talk) 22:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC) I have now included Danish press reports and TV programmes which clearly testify to the notability of Bente Hammer. I hope this resolves the doubts expressed above. --Ipigott (talk) 14:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin WP:WITHDRAWN due to excellent work of Ipigott, which is very much appreciated. Mabalu (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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