Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berandal


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The result was keep (WP:NAC) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Berandal

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Fails WP:V and WP:CRYSTAL. Sources are exclusively blogs, gossip sheets and social media; no WP:RS found in Google search. May be suitable for userfication until it meets WP:MOVIE.  Mini  apolis  19:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Why not just merge or at least redirect to the first movie? Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - The Jakarta Post (largest English-language newspaper in Indonesia) has at least two articles about it (1, 2), and the largest newspaper in Indonesia, Kompas, has several articles, including "Shooting of the Raid 2 Berandal Finishes" and "Sequel to The Raid Promises Many Surprises". Some WP:BEFORE, please? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, looking at the sources already in the article, my sense of professionalism is gravely insulted. Twitch might not be a well-known site, but it seems trusted for international films. The Hollywood Reporter is quite solid, as is The Jakarta Post. To have these two publications demoted to "gossip sheets" shows a complete lack of understanding of the industry and a lack of interest in finding out. Per WP:SPS, Tweets from the creators can be used to fill in information if it's not available anywhere else (though that doesn't count towards notability). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Although the Jakarta Post is a RS, both articles are pre-release buzz; I still think it's WP:TOOSOON for a separate article. A redirect to The Raid: Redemption would preserve this article's history, or you might be willing to userfy it until it meets WP:MOVIE. All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:MOVIE supports having an article on films before release if coverage is adequate, so long as principal photography has commenced (as it clearly has here). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:56, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - satisfies WP:NFILM and WP:GNG.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 20:53, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Meets Notability (films) and WP:GNG. Source examples include:, . Also, here's a short article: . Northamerica1000(talk) 05:43, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Has received significant coverage in reliable sources, thus passing WP:NFILM. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:27, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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