Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernard Darke


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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Bernard Darke

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Wikipedia is not a WP:MEMORIAL. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Name that Jesuit Jesuit sources use Darke, although many other sources use Drake. I think we put both inames in article, but follow the Jesuits and mainly use Darke, unless better evidence appears.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Murder of Bernard Drake or Murder of Bernard Darke (whichever reflects the proper spelling of his name; note Bernard Drake already exists and WikiProject Guyana has Bernard Drake (priest) on their requested articles list) would likely pass the various subsections of WP:EVENT. There are a few GNews hits of the murder (e.g., , ), and various GBook hits well after also put the murder in context of various political events indicate lasting notability by some standard (e.g. , , ). This doesn't appear to be simply a "routine" murder in Guyana (e.g. , ). - Location (talk) 04:16, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The murder appears to be mentioned in another poorly sourced article, Andrew Morrison. - Location (talk) 04:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Weak keep -- I expect that the Catholics will in due course claim him as a saint, as having been martyred. I express no opinion on his sanctity.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to Murder of Bernard Darke. I have improved the sourcing of this deadly political stabbing of a working journalist. E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per my earlier prod which was removed by a since-banned editor. Darke was not "martyred"; he was a bystander accidentally killed by assassins looking for someone else. There are very occasional precedents for biographies of people known only for their deaths (Rachel Corrie, Emmett Till, Alice Ayres, H. Jones), but those are invariably in circumstances where the death prompted a significant public reaction to the extent the the death itself becomes the "well-documented historic event" required by Notability (people). This pseudo-article manages to get even the most basic facts such as his nationality wrong (he was a Brit who happened to be working in Guyana, not Guyanese), and does not indicate in any way how or why his murder was any more notable than anyone else's. Without "persistent coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources that devote significant attention to the individual's role" this is a clear violation of WP:VICTIM. – iridescent  08:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Concur with E.M.Gregory. Keep and move to Murder of Bernard Darke. 30 years on, and the murder is still being discussed. Article is sourced, and the event is significant. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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