Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernard the Arch-elf


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The result was   merge to The Santa Clause. L Faraone  02:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Bernard the Arch-elf

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Unreferenced, unsourced and i have reason to believe a majority of the info is creator speculation. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 18:12 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * delete unsourced non notable fictional character unlikely to ever meet WP:N. Active Banana    (bananaphone  23:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * change to merge redirect per MichaelQSchmidt Active Banana    (bananaphone  22:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I find four references on Google News archive just by clicking, and that presumes the full title, "Bernard the Arch-elf". Given that level of success, I suspect there may well be more.  While those four references appear to be trivial mentions in the actor's resume, there may well be more.  Regardless, the films are well known and notable enough that a merge or redirect seems appropriate. Jclemens (talk) 00:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * None of the four mentions on Google News is remotely relevant to establishing notability for the character. All they say is that this character is one of that David Krumholtz's best-known roles. If anything, the implication that the reader must be told that this is "the guy who played that one character in that movie franchise" detracts from the presumed notability of both the actor and the character. 70.179.116.63 (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The only problem I have with that is that he's only a minor character in the film series, and the only one with his own film page. Why does he have one and Scott Calvin doesn't? The column about his absence is definetly fan speculation. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 21:21 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to The Santa Clause per research and reasons of User:Jclemens. I might point out to User: Rusted AutoParts that the Scott Calvin character might well deserve an article, as he is the primary character and mentioned in detail in the plot sections of all three films... and the character not currently having a seperate article would seem more a reason to turn a redlink Scott Calvin to blue.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can see no apparent benefit in providing the world with a list of things that a particular character does in each of the three Santa Clause films. 70.179.116.63 (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a reasonable search term, and will send those Wikipedia readers who actually might wish to know about this character to the place where his might best be mentioned in context to the films in which he was a part. No one (so far) is implying he has notability for a seperate article.  Schmidt, ' MICHAEL Q. 06:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.