Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernat Ylla


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The result was   Delete.  Ty  23:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Bernat Ylla

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Non notable artist. Besides his own webpage, I can't find any info on him. Also, while the following is a fixable issue, please note that the entire text is original research. Althena (talk) 03:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No - it's a copyvio! Johnbod (talk) 10:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * comment- very, very few online sources about him so i'm bordering on delete, but we might want to wait for a Spanish reader to verify that the Spanish sources online don't prove notability.- Samuel  Tan  03:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: Article has no references at all. The article seems very in depth (just by glancing at it) but has no references in it. The page needs to be wikified and structured. If the author fixes these issues than my vote is a keep. – Jerry  teps  04:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Comment. Google only gives a couple of directories and whatnot (even in Spanish), but GScholar turns up this piece in Catalan.  (It should open as a PDF, but I'm not sure it will.)  I'm withholding any opinion until a Catalan speaker says something about that source, although it would still be pretty sparse coverage.  By the way, both this article and the French version appear to be translations of a Spanish text at bernatylla.com; does that infringe on the author's copyright?   Anturiaethwr  Talk  04:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 05:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course it does! After the first para, the whole article appears to be a copyvio, & it is the editors only contribution. The guy might be weakly notable - as usual the critic is so vague it is hard to discern anything at all about the painting or its significance - but all that should certainly be removed if kept. The French wiki article claims:

- Tableaux au Musée d'Art Moderne de Barcelone, au Musée de Chatelleraut, au Musée de Skofja-Loka (Slovénie) - Acquisitions par le Musée des Beaux Arts de la Ville de Paris - which would be his best claim to notability. Johnbod (talk) 10:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above...Modernist (talk) 15:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - I speak a little Spanish, and the article is indeed a word-for-word translation of the Spanish source provided in above, and my handy online translator confirms that. Overlooking the copyright vio, WP:CREATIVE says that a notable artist must be "represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums," and I see only meager evidence that one of Ylla's works is housed in a French museum. Although at least one Spanish source has written a colorful examination of his art, WP:CREATIVE also advises that the artist's work be represented in "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." I see no evidence of that. Okiefromokla questions? 00:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I didn't realize that the Spanish source was Ylla's own website, not an independent review. Nevertheless, this additional non-English source provided above would not sufficiently establish notability by itself, regardless of its content. Multiple secondary sources are necessary. Okiefromokla questions? 00:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


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