Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernd von Arnim


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect all to the respective ship articles. There's consensus against keeping these, but no consensus about whether to delete, redirect and/or merge. The redirection allows editors to decide for each individual article whether they want to merge any (sourced or sourceable) content from the history. I'm asking the nominator,, or others to implement the redirections because the closing script doesn't support automation of this step.  Sandstein  13:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Bernd von Arnim

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Fails WP:GNG. Very similar to the Navy Cross nominations, except this person had no high-level award, only a ship named after him. Lettlerhello • contribs 16:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Also nominating these other articles for the same reasons:
 * Richard Beitzen
 * Friedrich Eckoldt
 * Karl Galster
 * Erich Giese
 * Bruno Heinemann
 * Friedrich Ihn
 * Paul Jacobi
 * Hermann Künne
 * Hans Lüdemann
 * Theodor Riedel
 * Diether von Roeder
 * Anton Schmitt
 * Hermann Schoemann
 * Max Schultz
 * Erich Steinbrinck
 * Georg Thiele
 * Wolfgang Zenker
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lettlerhello • contribs 16:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Lettlerhello • contribs 16:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Lettlerhello •


 * All of these could be merged to the ships named after them. And if they are deleted, they should be recreated as redirects. The easiest way to do this would be for to withdraw this nomination and then redirect all of these to the ships, with individual decisions on merging. I don't see much point in an AFD. —Kusma (t·c) 18:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Now that we've got other comments, withdrawing is no longer an option, so redirect all, with optional merge if it is worth it. —Kusma (t·c) 14:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom, then redirect. Once and for all, just having a ship named after you does not establish notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect all to their respective ships as namesakes, per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Archive 159, similar to what I'm doing for US medal recipients who had ships names for them. Mztourist (talk) 03:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the lot none of them meet standard inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect all as stated by others. Intothatdarkness 18:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I thought the idea of trying to stuff in dozens of other articles into the AfD for a single one was already addressed, and the gist of it was that it's a bad idea, and yet it being done again here. Each article should have it's own nom and it's own review. - wolf  03:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No, it was a bad idea in that case because the notability (or lack thereof) of the nominees varied, plus there were a lot more of them. Here, it's all about the same: German naval men who performed a valiant deed and got a ship named after them, not much else (not even a decoration?). Clarityfiend (talk) 06:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete and then merge all As stated by above. --  Jammumylove  Talk to me or CHECK MY RECENT WORK 20:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge all. Not notable, but should be merged as an alternative to deletion. These are longstanding articles, so if the content was merged to the namesake ship article in the past or if content will be merged as a result of this AfD – quality of the article content varies – then we can't delete the pages, since they would be legally needed for attribution reasons. Unless someone wants to do the work poring over the page histories for all the articles to conclusively show that attribution isn't required, it's easier to not delete the pages. Some of the pages can be straight redirected such as those in the first half of the list, but several of the articles in the second half have content that isn't on the ship article/pictures that might be added to the target page. Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:45, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect all: do not meet WP:BIO. There's nothing to merge as the source listed in most of these articles is someone's personal web site: http://www.german-navy.de/. --K.e.coffman (talk) 09:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.