Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernstein Center Freiburg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I've partially suppressed, and discounted as off-topic, one opinion in favor of deletion.  Sandstein  08:19, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Bernstein Center Freiburg

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No evidence of independent notability. Redirect to University of Freiburg. SST flyer 14:05, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. SST flyer  14:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Added into Science Fiction category by mistake. Apologies. Nordic   Dragon  14:49, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'll remove it for you. Thank you for your efforts at delsorting. Jclemens (talk) 04:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Independent notability is given by the independence of the center. Even though it is established as a central facility of the university in terms of teaching, it has the status of an independent research center which is organised in the national Bernstein Network (hence the name). Independence is further established by third-party funding. MichaelVeit1987 (talk) 12:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC+1) — MichaelVeit1987 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I would also vote to keep the article. Integration into the page University of Freiburg may not be a viable option as there is no place in the current structure to include information on Freiburg research centers that are affiliated to the university (of which there are several). Centers like the Berstein Center Freiburg (BCF) act with a great deal of independence when it comes to research. Just adding their content to the University of Freiburg article may seem irrelevant to most people reading about the university. On the other hand, as a person interested in the research center BCF, I would not be looking for it under the university entry. I believe the proper way to do it would be a very short paragraph in the university article with a link to the main article on the BCF. (In the interest of full disclosure: I do work at the BCF.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.230.177.160 (talk) 10:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)  — 132.230.177.160 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:37, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, [Comment removed by administrator as potentially libelous,  Sandstein   08:18, 20 April 2016 (UTC)] ;  Be..anyone (talk)  22:15, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – Some odd comments above. the point here is to determine independent notability, not factual independence. Either way, a scan of relevant search engines didn't turn up any non-trivial third-party coverage, only statements of the form "X at the Bernstein Center Freiburg said/discovered/etc Y".  — Nizolan  (talk) 03:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - wikipedia has also independent entries in many very similar cases. For example: The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_the_History_of_Science,_Technology_and_Medicine which belongs to King's College.The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCL_Institute_of_Neurology which belongs to University College London to mention two examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.174.231.204 (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)  — 84.174.231.204 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep This is "Articles for Deletion", and is for articles that cannot be improved, not a forum to load down with redirection arguments.  Editors who want a centralized discussion forum for redirects should create one.  Otherwise, the relevant forum is the talk page of the article, and if needed, RfC.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect if needed as there's nothing yet suggesting the necessary independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  04:09, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.