Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berserker (character class)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Berserker. Consensus not to keep as an article. Whether to redirect elsewhere, or merge in part, etc., may be subject to further discussions and editorial consensus.  Sandstein  12:18, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Berserker (character class)

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Article has not developed a single citation in nearly 10 years. In-depth discussion of any of the mentioned character classes in independent, reliable, secondary sources appears to be nil. The various games mentioned usually cover this class already, so there is neither need for an independent article nor do there appear to be sources to provide evidence if its independent notability as one either. KDS 4444 Talk  03:18, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as a non-notable stand-alone topic/term failing WP:GNG with no multiple, reliable, secondary sources such as WP:VG/RS focusing on the topic itself in-depth. There are many mentions and many examples that have RSes discuss them, but no sources tie the different examples under the same umbrella term. They just happen to use the same name, which could have as well been a synonym. As it stands, the article is entirely WP:OR in joining the examples under the same topic. This is also unsuitable for a list, as there are no RSes with something like "list of games with berserker class" as their topic. And excluding the (arbitrary) examples, the article has no real content. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:43, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Trim/source and merge into Berserker - The merge proposal was IMO garnering consensus; I suggested on the merge on the talk page saying This is something important (depictions of "bers/zerkers" in video games), but probably not enough for its own spin-out, and would be better covered as a section in the existing article about the concept of Berserkers., and both &  were in rough agreement that the topic of "bers/zerkers in video games" was definitely important enough to cover, although most of the unsourced in-universe WP:GAMEGUIDEish content of this AfD'ed article would need to be trimmed down heavily and sourced. ☺ ·   Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  14:21, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I would also agree to merge, if there was any sourcing in the article. It seems anything we add to the main article will be new material and mostly examples. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:04, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:11, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    22:10, 29 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Trim/source and merge into Berserker Agree with Salvidrim, merge into a "Depiction in modern media" or similar such section. All of the content should be sourcable (Primary source, if nothing else, which should be fine for that), but the existing article itself is not notable and is an assorted collection of gamecruft. -- ferret (talk) 22:20, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Final Fantasy character jobs or delete. From a WP:VG/RS Google custom search, it's possible to verify that individual games have a berserker class, but the topic itself is never discussed.  I don't see any discussion of how these video games roles fit into wider berserker lore, either.  We don't need an unsourced example farm imported into berserker, but I guess we could redirect this to what seems like the most prominent example. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Certainly not independently notable. SwisterTwister   talk  23:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


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