Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertha Mulvihill


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Passengers of the Titanic. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Bertha Mulvihill

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Yet another WP:NOTGENEALOGY entry from a sockmaster intent on creating articles on himself and members of his family. In this case the subject fails WP:GNG, WP:SINGLEEVENT, WP:VICTIM and other guidelines. >700 people survived the sinking of the Titanic. They are not all automatically notable. All of the available coverage on this subject relates to her involvement in the that event, and none of it deals with the subject independent of that event. WP:BIO1E is therefore not surpassed. In all bar one or two of the sources, the subject is not the primary topic of the piece (mentioned in books alongside other survivors, "witness testimony", etc). WP:SIGCOV is therefore not surpassed. Most of the article seems to be intent on drawing links between the subject and other members of the same family. In a transparent attempt to imply notability through association with each other. WP:NOTINHERIT is therefore also a concern. I could go on and on about the SOCK, NOTHERE, NOTGENEALOGY and other issues relative to the editing practices of the article's author. But, in terms of the article's subject alone, WP:ANYBIO is not met. In short: Guliolopez (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * All of the available coverage relates to the subject's involvement in a single event.
 * None of the available coverage relates to the subject's involvement in anything else notable.
 * None of the available coverage deals with the subject as the primary topic of that coverage.


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 00:38, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 00:38, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Passengers of the Titanic Passengers of the Titanic. Passengers/survivors of this sinking merit at least that. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not a notable person. Spleodrach (talk) 11:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Passengers of the Titanic, she is mentioned in a table there. There are two sections named "third class", so a more precise target is not possible. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete we need to stop the use of Wikipedia to create indepth articles on people who were never actually in any way notable. Being among hundreds of people on one boat that did not die when it sunk is not a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northern Escapee (talk) 07:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Passengers of the Titanic: she is already listed.Ingratis (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.