Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Besam Yousef


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 16:31, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Besam Yousef

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Notability has yet to be established. If he gets a fight against a bigger name opponent, then recreate the page. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Not sure why but your AfD submissions are in error - please read the directions.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

He fought Simeon Thoresen and is signed to th UFC, it was hes debut his notability will come, please do not delete the article yet. Greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.221.204.175 (talk) 23:07, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment So is that a vote to keep? If his notability will come then thats when this article should be recreated, right now he is not notable and there isnt much point in having an article about him. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 00:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Keep - According to WP:ATHLETE, three UFC fights would secure a spot for any mixed martial artist on Wikipedia. Since this guy would have had two if not for an injury and doesn't seem to be in danger of getting cut, I don't see a reason to delete an article that would likely have to be remade. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually he is in danger of getting cut if he loses again, and he's only had 1 fight, and an almost fight doesnt count. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment If he lost his next fight he'd be in a similar situation as Tom DeBlass, who wasn't getting cut after going 0-2 in the UFC (but retired on his own choice). It seems inevitable Yousef will fight at least three times in the UFC. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Tom DeBlass retired before he was cut - saw the writing on the wall. Only 2 fights with 2 losses take one out of the running for notability.  Should be AfD'd too.Peter Rehse (talk) 07:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 07:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Delete If the third fight was going to happen in a a month or so I wouldn't push for a deletion but that is far from the case.Peter Rehse (talk)
 * Delete - Fails both WP:NMMA and WP:MMANOT. Kevlar (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete He has only 1 fight for a top tier organization so he doesn't meet WP:MMANOT, nor is he on the verge of meeting it. Papaursa (talk) 04:04, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NMMA. --LlamaAl (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of in depth coverage in independent sources. If the article is substantially improved, feel free to ping my talk page. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:08, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep He is still signed to the UFC, in his first stint. If he washes out within, oh, two or three fights and doesn't do anything else notable in his career I wouldn't terribly object to his deletion, but as it is this is premature. Beansy (talk) 11:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

KEEP: Anybody who has fought for the UFC is a big enough figure to be considered notable. Willdawg111 (talk) 18:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You keep ignoring the consensus notability criteria at WP:MMANOT. Mdtemp (talk) 15:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:MMANOT. He's had only 1 fight for a top organization so assuming he'll have 3 is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Mdtemp (talk) 15:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.