Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beshir Imanov


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Stifle (talk) 09:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Beshir Imanov

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Does not pass WP:GNG. The original creator is sock of Elshad Iman who advertises in various wikis. Kadı   Message   07:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Kadı    Message   07:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions.  Kadı    Message   07:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. In the old days, a rank of general sufficed to make biographies inherently notable, but I think this is gone with the depreciation of WP:SOLDIER? No hits in GScholar/GBooks suggest either an issue with sources (coverage may in Cyrillic), or simply that he is notable. Current references are of low reliability. If we don't treat the rank of general as sufficient for notability, than this not likely to pass WP:NBIO unless better sources are found (if that happens, do ping me). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:31, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Piotrus, There is a positive correlation between the quality and number of sources and notability. No sources = No notability. Kind regards. Kadı    Message   10:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Which means that here we have very weak sources, which suggest very weak (insufficient) notability. I would vote delete except I am still under the influence of the old days where all generals were considered notable, and I'd like to hear from other editors familiar with this topic area that this is no longer a sufficient criteria to retain an article (please ping me if you want to do so, so I'll notice your argument). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Piotrus, WP:SOLDIER is an essay not a policy.  Kadı    Message   13:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I would think that being a Hero of Socialist Labour meets WP:AWARD. Atchom (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:AWARD isn't the correct article, anyway, the Hero of Socialist Labour has been given to about 21,000 people (per it's article) which makes it too common, awards have to to be more special (or of a higher order) to consider the recipient notable. - Kevo3 2 7 (talk) 07:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BASIC and no other SNG apply. Just being a General doesn't make someone notable. Mztourist (talk) 03:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. - Kevo<sup style="color:#d90012">3 <sup style="color:#0033a0">2 <sup style="color:#f2a800">7 (talk) 07:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep There is Azerbaijani literature that proves that he is a major general of militia (USSR). It may pass in importance.--Samral (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:RELIABLE Kadı    Message   18:36, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep A reliable source like AzTV has a radio program about him, and the man is an encyclopedist. Those who understand the Azerbaijani language will understand it if they listen to the radio broadcast. I would like to add that Elshad Iman is not blocked globally, this is his account - E.Imanoff, continues to edit in the Azerbaijani wiki. Araz Yaquboglu (talk) 05:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I can understand Azerbaijani language. This is not an independent source as Elşad is the creator. Elshad Iman was using sock and advertising (PR), by the reason of this his accounts were globally locked. The stewards are assuming good faith that's why he isn't locked again. Kadı    Message   11:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear Enwiki admins, Araz Yaquboğlu banned in Commons for being sockpuppet of elshad iman. Kind regards, Kadı    Message   19:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources appear to be sufficient for WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:42, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Whether the creator is a sock or not doesn't matter. I agree with User:Necrothesp that this passes WP:GNG. Atchom (talk) 21:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep A search reveals that the topic meets WP:GNG. Jeni Wolf (talk) 06:35, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


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