Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Best selling albums in 2009


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 22:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Best selling albums in 2009

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Fruit of a poisonous tree. This is based on the United World Chart, which is listed at WP:BADCHARTS and was deleted per WP:Articles for deletion/United World Chart. An article listing the winners of a hobby chart is completely unnecessary. &mdash;Kww(talk) 11:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Clarification for those not seeing it: www.mediatraffic.de is the United World Chart (see ), and that is the sole reference for this article.&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing United World Chart involvement. Can you please clarify? - Mgm|(talk) 12:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

OFFICIAL NATIONAL CHARTS FROM USA, JAPAN, UNITED KINGDOM, GERMANY, AND FRANCE WITH REAL SALES DATA OFFICIAL NATIONAL CHARTS FROM CANADA, AUSTRALIA, ITALY, SPAIN, BRAZIL, MEXICO, NETHERLANDS, SWITZERLAND, BELGIUM, SOUTH AFRICA, SWEDEN, AUSTRIA, NORWAY, DENMARK, FINLAND, IRELAND, ARGENTINA, CHILE, COLOMBIA, VENEZUELA, NEW ZEALAND, MALAYSIA, POLAND, PORTUGAL, HUNGARY, CZECH REPUBLIC, SLOVAKIA, GREECE, AND SOUTH KOREA ARE WEIGHTED TO THE SIZE OF ITS MARKETS ACCORDING TO THE LATEST IFPI-STATISTICS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokuna (talk • contribs) 12:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * THE TOP-SELLING ALBUMS ACCORDING TO GLOBAL SALES DATA AND NATIONAL ALBUM-CHARTS
 * The above text is a quote from http://www.mediatraffic.de/about-us.htm. Note that the page is clearly labeled United World Chart. Also note that it is false: there are no official national charts for Brazil, and I haven't found one for Malaysia, either (although I haven't spent months searching for one, which I have done for Brazil).&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Delete given origins of article. However, there is no reason why we could not have an article based on reliable charts. Lily Allen's It's Not Me, It's You and Taylor Swift's Fearless are obvious inclusions for such an article. I'm also surprised that 2009 in music doesn't have a section on this. If it did, I would suggest a redirect. Capitalistroadster (talk) 20:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Kww and WP:BADCHARTS - eo (talk) 13:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Did I hear United World Chart? Yes? Then I say Delete. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  14:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Query: Is there some other official chart that could be used to generate this list? Powers T 14:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment:I've searched for one many times, but have had no luck. There isn't a world certification body, and the two that try are hobby charts.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not based on a reliable source effectively makes this unreliable and should be deleted. -- Ged UK  15:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are, presumably, sources that could be used to provide lists like this for most major countries; why not, therefore, split the article up into a section for each country sources are available for? JulesH (talk) 16:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply: You mean like Lists of best-selling albums by country?&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Kind-of, except broken down by year rather than based on all-time sales as those lists are. JulesH (talk) 08:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply: ok. if mediatraffic is hobby chart, where can we find alternative chart of world?! i think gays from mediatraffic doin' ALBUM chart clearly and honestly, becouse the weekly data is closly to billboard and uk charts. I agree that track chart, whot they mady weekly is too diference and not very realyable but album chart is realy. so dont worry abaut this page and make most notable and clear your own pages like 2009 in music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokuna (talk • contribs) 18:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom and WP:BADCHARTS. I don't see anything useful out of this article. Versus22 talk 19:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Lists of best-selling albums by country. This is a likely search term. Capitalistroadster (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Drmies (talk) 23:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:BADCHARTS. JamesBurns (talk) 06:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a fundamentally unverifiable article based on an unreliable source, which will have constant outdated-information problems anyway. I would agree that following deletion a redirect to 2009 in music would be reasonable as this is a likely search term. ~ mazca  t 18:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin - Articles for deletion/Best selling music in 2009 deals with an article that is essentially a duplicate of this one, created by the same user. You may wish to close that AfD at the same time. ~ mazca  t 12:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.