Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bestial Black Metal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   00:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Bestial Black Metal

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Possibly an attempt to coin a neologism, the use has single-handedly introduced the subject into wikipedia. The article contains no references, inline citations or external links for verifiability, something which the creator acknowledged when creating the article. The lack of incoming wiki links, only further increases the possibility of WP:HOAX  Flewis (talk) 10:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom; non-notable and unverifiable neologism. Prolog (talk) 10:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Bestially Delete - Not another fringe metal sub-genre! Unverifiable. AlexTiefling (talk) 10:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It's not a hoax, but equally is not a legitimate, recognised subgenre; no reliable sources to back it up. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep It's a real subgenre. Bands like Bestial Warlust or Revenge and more I want to add in the article are not represented by the metal subgenres in Wikipedia. Give me some time and I'll find more people helping me with the article. Anyway, try searching for "bestial black metal" in google and you'll find lot of sites, distros, catalogues... using this tag for bands like Blasphemy or Beherit, Morbosidad, Proclamation... that have nothing to do with bands like Burzum or Gorgoroth.Nocturnal Slayer (talk) 16:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Distros and catalogues do not count as reliable sources. You need non-trivial coverage in independent third-party sources; in this case, what you need is something like a commercial, print-copy book, magazine or newspaper for example. There may well be appropriate web-based material out there, but make sure you avoid self-published sources. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 16:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Meaningless neologism. Twilight1701 (talk) 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Save what you've done. Then find some legitimate coverage in newspapers and magazines to establish the notability of this subject. Until then.... This article is just original research and doesn't establish notability.ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Maybe userfy in that case? D ARTH P ANDA duel 20:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. No need to keep this article (or the genre terms used in it), even though information about this music style may be added to the black metal article itself, which, at the moment, suggests all black metal bands play like those from Scandinavia, with rasp vocals, a thin sound and bad production. Which is totally wrong, or are Necromantia, Beherit or Mortuary Drape no black metal bands? -- 132.187.3.26 (talk) 12:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.