Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bethel Mission School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 01:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Bethel Mission School

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advertising The Banner talk 23:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - contains what, in Indian schools, is a high school. I have sliced out a significant amount of advertising and/or hype. What remains appears to be factual. Sure the article still needs much cleanup and sourcing work but AFD is not for this. We keep high schools for the very good reason that experience shows that, with enough research, sources can invariably be found that meet WP:ORG. Google is a very poor tool for finding sources on Indian schools because, unlike US schools for example, they don't dump everything on the Internet. Indeed, very few have much of an Internet presence at all. We must avoid systemic bias and allow time for local and/or hardcopy sources to be researched since no evidence has been adduced that this school cannot meet notability requirements. The Whispering Wind (talk) 00:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The systematic bias is that high school are kept in the romantic believe that dreaming about sources is just as good as giving them. The Banner talk 01:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Sources are hard to gather as the school is one of the remotest area in the country with minimal exposure to the online world. More sources will be added later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.212.96.223 (talk) 05:14, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. Can we be sure this school exists? Jacona (talk) 20:04, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is listed on this government website. The Whispering Wind (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding precedent and consensus. See WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Jacona (talk) 18:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding precedent and consensus. See WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. No true reason given for deletion. "advertising" is a ridiculous reason to delete a school article and it's easy enough to remove anything that's over-promotional. It's time that editors cleaned up articles as a first option instead of nominating them for deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It is time editors start judging articles on face value instead of using a result (common outcomes) as an argument. There is no policy to keep schools at all. The Banner talk 09:59, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No policy, but consensus, which is what the outcomes illustrate. This discussion has been had endlessly and the conclusion is always the same - secondary school articles are kept. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not even consensus, just a very loud group of people. The Banner talk 20:04, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No, clear consensus. Note that The Banner is a member of the rather bitter minority who have always disagreed with the consensus and like to claim that the majority who agree with it are just louder and his group are actually in the right. I'm not sure what he thinks a consensus actually means, because to me it means that most editors who express an opinion agree with it. Do most editors on Wikipedia agree with it? Who knows? Do most editors on Wikipedia agree with any consensus here? Who knows? We can only possibly take the opinions of the people who actually contribute to discussions, not the silent majority who don't bother. If we took "consensus" to mean "a majority of people who contribute to Wikipedia agree with it" then we'd never, ever, in a million years, have any consensus on anything, ever. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep I graduated my school days from this school. I know it exist, but it is difficult to get references or sources due to the lack of information technology in NE regions of India. But, written source is not the only reliable information. For example, we do not need any references to know that a Ketchup is from tomato; it comes naturally. My main point is that references will build up slowly as we are lacking in internet facilities in our areas. It is of course in a remote area. However, people in remote areas also need a good education. So, we are very thankful for having a good school like this. From my opinion, wikipedia will become richer in knowledge if you will be able to not delete this from your site. Eventually, it will be a blessing for our regions to have our esteemed school to be exposed in this way. Please don't delete this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hriatacherput (talk • contribs) 19:46, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia.  Just to clarify -- Are you the same new editor who !voted as an IP above, with the same remoteness concern? Epeefleche (talk) 06:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The answer is yes and no. First of all, yes i am from the same remote area called Champhai. Like i said, i used to attend my my class 3 and class 4 standard during 1998 and 1999 in the mentioned school i.e. Bethel Mission School. Secondly, i am not the editor about the school here in wikipedia. However, the editor is my good friend and he informed me about this and he said there is lack of enough sources. So, i helped him in searching sources, but is very limited. I hope you understand the situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hriatacherput (talk • contribs) 16:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Strike as per WP:AfD guidelines. C ute st Penguin '''  {talk • contribs} 16:56, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. I will be amazed to see a school which is far way from Internet will advertise on Wikipedia.  C ute st Penguin '''  {talk • contribs} 16:56, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 *  Strong Keep as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES.I have added the Directorate of School Education of Mizoram  lists the schools in Mizoram and  Bethel Mission School  is one of them.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - per usual WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.