Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bettina Pelz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 09:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Bettina Pelz

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This article appears to have been created by the subject or someone related to the subject in violation of the policy on conflicts of interest. Also, the subject is of questionable notability. Dusty |&#x1f4ac;|You can help! 20:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Dusty |&#x1f4ac;|You can help! 20:50, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 10:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 23:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)



 Contested deletion 

The entry on Bettina Pelz in Wikipedia is very important and shouldn't be deleted. She is a pioneer as a curator for light art projects in public space. With her sensibility, experience and international network she has profiled and enriched this new art form. Public access to her activities via Wikipedia is vital for light art and is of not only informative but as well didactic value - Francesco Mariotti

This page should not be speedily deleted because, I will add some further references and links, just need a bit more time --Kunstpelz (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kunstpelz. Judging by your username you appear to have a relationship with the subject of this article, in which case you should not be editing on this page. Please see the policy on conflicts of interest. More information on this subject is included in the links that I left on your talk page. Dusty |&#x1f4ac;|You can help! 19:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

This entry should be kept. the emerging artform of light art and light art festivals is important to the art world. whereas several festivals are more an entertaining "nice night out" event the curator Bettina Pelz picks up the challenge to combine avantgarde artistic approaches with the specific situation of a city. in the field of light art she is one of the first curators to deal with this subject at all and influenced several artists and other curators. Count her as one of the top ten light art curators worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kniedichrein (talk • contribs) 19:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Please keep the entry as Bettina Pelz is one of the great ones. There needs to be more work done in this field and she is one of the best ones to do it, as her knowledge, abilities, passion and dedication are admirable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.137.204.202 (talk) 09:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Keep it. She schould be an inspiration for all curators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.145.164.171 (talk) 10:51, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

This entry should be kept. Due to Bettina Pelz' work the use of light in public spaces during the temporary public festivals she had curated had shifed from pur decoration to a means of art. Her work as a curator had set high standards. (Lichtlilie (talk) 14:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC))

''' This page should not be speedy deleted because... ''' This page should not be speedily deleted because... (we, OCUBO, consider Bettina Pelz as a major contributor in the field of Light Festival. her participations are numerous and she is clearly a refence in this field. surely more professionals in the field would miss this information about her and the light festival history) --89.153.233.123 (talk) 11:58, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

This page should not be deleted. Bettina Pelz is leading in organization and as curator of light art festivals Europe wide. She initiates and integrates the support of light art and lighting design by industries, communes and public funds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.152.88.93 (talk) 23:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

THIS ENTRANCE SHOULD BE KEPT Bettina Pelz is an international reference for light art and lighting design, she is not only known and respected as a curator of quality festivals but also as a pioneer and improver in this fields. I think her work, her thoughts and research on this subjects are fundamental to be known by new generations of artist who want to learn, grow and have a professional development... For all those interested in light, technology, public art, lighting design, she should stay as a reference.- Ghiju Díaz de León — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghiju (talk • contribs) 19:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * After nominating an article for deletion I usually prefer to stay out of the discussion and let the process take over. However I am still concerned with this particular article because of the apparent conflict of interest. I also find it unusual that all of the arguments on the talk page are by editors who a) have never contributed anything to WP other than the comment in the article's talk page. Some of the comments are from unsigned IPs and others from brand new editors who apparently got an account just to vote. I also further note that all of these editors overlooked the (to me) very obvious link to this discussion and instead edited the talk page which makes me question their independence. Finally, a cursory search on the internet reveals that Ms. Pelz is mentioned on a number of promotional sites but I could not find any online news article or similar reliable source. Most of the sources in the article appear to be from sites promoting the genre or specific events and are not reliable sources for establishing notability. I would feel much more confidence in the result of this discussion if at least some of the participants were establish WP editors. Thanks, Dusty |&#x1f4ac;|You can help! 13:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steven   Zhang  Help resolve disputes! 09:25, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - per concerns raised by Dusty. Sources are largely prompotional and trivial - consensus against deletion appear to have violated WP:COI. hmssolent \Let's convene My patrols 09:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I think there's a case for arguing she meets WP:CREATIVE as the creator of one or more notable works (her works being exhibitions or installations), e.g. Lichtrouten has some press. However the existing article does not meet the requirements of a Wikipedia article on a creative individual: it needs to have an independently-referenced explanation of her importance as a curator (e.g. references to media or scholarly articles that explain her importance, not written by herself, her employees, colleagues or friends); a summary of critical opinions of her work (with references to reviews); ideally, information about her development as an artist/curator, influences, working practices, etc; and not just be a CV-style list of her various jobs and who she worked with. Virtually none of the references on the article currently provide independent analysis: this is a massive failure to produce an article that accords with Wikipedia policies. Someone fix it, please! --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.